Smoking At School - Page 2

katex · 29-09-2007, 12:16

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Originally Posted by Sara

All LCC employees cannot smoke whilst on paid time. Therefore if you are getting paid for dinners and breaks it means no smoking. Also if driving between meetings etc in our own cars we still can't smoke as we are still in paid time. So i presume teachers can't smoke.

Had this discussion at work yesterday coincidentally ... I feel this is not quite legal. Ok, understand that a company have every right to stop you smoking on their premises e.g. in your car on their car park, however, sure they cannot enforce it if on the road out seeing customers. ?

Also, if your dinner break entitles you to go home .. are they saying can't have a cigarette there either ? This would only apply to salaried staff I suppose, not by the hour ... as dinner breaks aren't included in most wages.

Think it would be just a peevish attitude to refrain you from smoking whilst driving between meetings in your own car ... except if other employees with you of course, who don't smoke, after all only brought in to protect people non-smokers.

Lots of employees are not entitled to eat at their desk/workplace .. could you therefore not grab yourself a mint from your car whilst commuting between offices ?

panther · 29-09-2007, 13:38

is it illegal to smoke under the age of 16, or just to sell em??

BERNADETTE · 29-09-2007, 13:42

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Originally Posted by panther

is it illegal to smoke under the age of 16, or just to sell em??

Just illegal for shopkeepers to sell them, not that they take any notice

panther · 29-09-2007, 13:50

well thats probably why the teachers dont do nowt

if i ever catch my kids having a fag ill.............

BERNADETTE · 29-09-2007, 13:57

Only thing teachers can do is tell the parents, I would never have dared show such blatant disrespect how times have changed!!!!

SPUGGIE J · 29-09-2007, 14:40

I got a good clip round the ear for it and had plenty of run ins with teachers over it. The do as I say not as I do attitude was a pain in the neck but the freedoms I craved are now causing chaos. Oh the joys of hindsight.

Sara · 29-09-2007, 18:15

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Originally Posted by katex

Had this discussion at work yesterday coincidentally ... I feel this is not quite legal. Ok, understand that a company have every right to stop you smoking on their premises e.g. in your car on their car park, however, sure they cannot enforce it if on the road out seeing customers. ?

Also, if your dinner break entitles you to go home .. are they saying can't have a cigarette there either ? This would only apply to salaried staff I suppose, not by the hour ... as dinner breaks aren't included in most wages.

Think it would be just a peevish attitude to refrain you from smoking whilst driving between meetings in your own car ... except if other employees with you of course, who don't smoke, after all only brought in to protect people non-smokers.

Lots of employees are not entitled to eat at their desk/workplace .. could you therefore not grab yourself a mint from your car whilst commuting between offices ?

It's by union agreement so it must be legal. Plus we get paid for dinners and breaks. So between 8.30am and 4pm i can't smoke, but that first one is wonderful.

Lilly · 29-09-2007, 20:00

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Originally Posted by panther

is it illegal to smoke under the age of 16, or just to sell em??

It is not illegal to smoke under the age of 16 so this means that if you let your 6 year old have a fag after their tea you would not be breaking the law.

As long as you had bought them and not him/her. It's illegal for under 16s to buy their own.

grego · 29-09-2007, 20:24

I'm sure at the hospital where I work staff aren't allowed to smoke on the grounds or in their uniform, I could be wrong but most of our smokers make sure they have their coats on.

lancsdave · 29-09-2007, 20:48

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Originally Posted by panther

is it illegal to smoke under the age of 16, or just to sell em??

Goes up to 18 on Monday

SPUGGIE J · 29-09-2007, 20:50

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

Goes up to 18 on Monday

And that will be as affective as the alcohol purchase age. They will always have a way of getting them.

BERNADETTE · 29-09-2007, 20:50

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

Goes up to 18 on Monday

Will that allow the teachers to get involved?

SPUGGIE J · 29-09-2007, 20:54

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Will that allow the teachers to get involved?

I would have more chance of being at the start of tonights meet than teachers getting involved.

mel3ft · 29-09-2007, 20:59

i only left school two years ago and the teachers allowed the year elevens to smoke on the tennis courts but kids under year eleven use to borrow a year elevens tie who didnt smoke to gain access to the court

even worse i use to get on a school bus and they use to sell joints on the top deck for £2 in the mornin and at night

grego · 29-09-2007, 21:04

Thats frightening about the joints Mel, just goes to show how normal some people think it is, or how normal its become.