Smoking ban - Sheesh!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Don't be so pessimistic - the government are otherwise well occupied and so any amendment to the Act may need to be put on the 'back burner'

Me pessimistic Margaret, it might just be a good time for them to close this loophole, or as they usually put it "a good time to bury bad news"

[Less]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

As a ex smoker, I for one like the ban, I can go and have a nice meal, without some person smoking on the table next to me.

As you are an ex Smoker I for one wouldn't wish you to have to put up with someone smoking next to you if you are in the correct establishment, before the ban most Restaurants set aside tables for smokers/non smokers.

Being a smoker however I am no longer given the freedom of choice as to where I go for a ciggy, even though smoking is still legal and I am of a legal age to smoke.

I used to go into busy pub's shared by both groups, now most pubs struggle to make a living, let's all be allowed life choices, you can still choose not to enter smoking pubs and I should still be allowed to mix in a social atmosphere with fellow smokers.

There was supposed to be a great storm of non smokers taking over pubs where are they? Still at home drinking their cheap ASDA cans? We only see them on sunny days out on the benches we used all winter and then they have the nerve to complain!

Who kept the pub open so you can still join us?

I'll give you a hint, "Cough, Cough, God it's cold out here, pass me a non smoker I can warm up next to, what do you mean the pubs run out until summer?".

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

The passengers on our planes even smoke in the toilets, this might seem like a bit of 'no victim' rule breaking, but if you don't put your cigarette out properly and throw it in the waste bin, you will start a fire, those sorts of thing bring aircraft down, it has happened in the past and will happen in the future. We just ban smokers caught in the toilets.

Ah, ya See I agree with No smoking on a plane for the reason you stated, (the action could effect othere's) this is sensible but as for pubs, people would not have to enter a room / pub dedicated for smoker's, who lets admit is probably a large percentage of the pubs clientel.

[mattylad]

And when that gets closed down, if they turn it into a bedroom, put a closer on the door and just call everyone in it "visitors" then they can smoke there too.
Exemption #4 in the act allows it.

Then when thats stopped, get an ill person & a nurse & call it a care home

[cashman]

[QUOTE=Less;713417]As you are an ex Smoker I for one wouldn't wish you to have to put up with someone smoking next to you if you are in the correct establishment, before the ban most Restaurants set aside tables for smokers/non smokers.

Being a smoker however I am no longer given the freedom of choice as to where I go for a ciggy, even though smoking is still legal and I am of a legal age to smoke.

I used to go into busy pub's shared by both groups, now most pubs struggle to make a living, let's all be allowed life choices, you can still choose not to enter smoking pubs and I should still be allowed to mix in a social atmosphere with fellow smokers.

There was supposed to be a great storm of non smokers taking over pubs where are they? Still at home drinking their cheap ASDA cans? We only see them on sunny days out on the benches we used all winter and then they have the nerve to complain!

Who kept the pub open so you can still join us?

I'll give you a hint, "Cough, Cough, God it's cold out here, pass me a non smoker I can warm up next to, what do you mean the pubs run out until summer?".------------------------------------
good post less, most pubs/clubs now struggle to exist the smoking ban being the final nail, i read 3/5 pubs a day are closing in britain since the ban,i am not aware of ANY smoker that wishes to smoke in eating establishments, funny how in general "Ex Smokers" are happy with the ban in it?

[Less]

Originally Posted by cashman

good post less, most pubs/clubs now struggle to exist the smoking ban being the final nail, i read 3/5 pubs a day are closing in britain since the ban,i am not aware of ANY smoker that wishes to smoke in eating establishments, funny how in general "Ex Smokers" are happy with the ban in it?

It's a strange world isn't it?

We all used to know pubs that had a lock in and served after time, then the drinking law was changed and in theory they can now stay open 24/7.

Not long after that though the smoking ban was introduced, now, (although sadly not within the bounds of Hyndburn everyone around here is far too lawful to contemplate such a thing!), we all know of pubs that call last orders wait for the strangers to leave, out come the ash-trays, (yes the pubs kept them), and...

Yippeee! let's have a smoke-in.

[Boeing Guy]

Sounds like a good idea Less, but of course that would never happen in Accrington, we are too law abiding!!!!
BTW nice teeth

[mattylad]

Originally Posted by Less

before the ban most Restaurants set aside tables for smokers/non smokers.

Unfortunately the smoke was unable to read & couldn't tell it wasnt allowed to travel to the non smoking tables.

Now, so many people have got used to not being able to go to the pub or restaurants because of the smoke & smell that they have found other ways to enjoy themselves, even if this includes drinking cans from Asda. Such that they
do not want to change what they do.

Having chest problems I have always hated going to the pub because of the smoke, such that now I prefer drinking my Asda bought drinks at home.
yet I have tried going to the pub several times since, and it's still not that nice -
Firt you have to walk past the throng of smokers hanging around the doorway, so going in you get a chest full of smoke, then I get blotto from this stuff called "Black Cat"

I took my lad on his 18th to the pub 6 doors down from me, he got insulted by some drunk. I thought I'd give them a 2nd chance & took my wife in on her birthday for a drink. The beer was warm & tasted like gnats pee.

Pubs - no ta - it's Asda Alcohol Aisle fo me

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Its in one or two of the nationals this morning as well Margaret, but if there is this loop hole it will soon be closed

I was right the loophole has been closed, this pub is no longer a smoking pub, its been closed by Health Authority

[Less]

Originally Posted by mattylad

Firt you have to walk past the throng of smokers hanging around the doorway, so going in you get a chest full of smoke, then I get blotto from this stuff called "Black Cat"

I took my lad on his 18th to the pub 6 doors down from me, he got insulted by some drunk.

The 'throng' of smokers don't want to be stood there, it's the nanny brigade that have forced us into this situation of every pub now having what appear to be unofficial bouncers.

Your son has my sympathy, just like with everything else you should learn to walk before you can run, practice with shandy's until you get used to the strength of the beer then perhaps you will refrain from insulting him!

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I was right the loophole has been closed, this pub is no longer a smoking pub, its been closed by Health Authority

...but the concept has spread - another pub has done it today
Second pub becomes 'smoking research centre' - The Star

[cashman]

admire em, but theres only 1 winner n aint landlords.