Smoking in school

Rowlf · 18-10-2013, 13:18

Read in the paper this morning that kids in a school in Leeds have had their cigarettes taken from them only to have them given back at lunchtime and break times so they can smoke them in a special area in the playground !!! What is the world coming to ? Smoking under 16yrs of age is the law of the land not a school rule. I think the school in question needs a head teacher like Mabel Horne,late of Accrington High School. I can imagine what she would have thought of it all.

gpick24 · 18-10-2013, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Rowlf

...Smoking under 16yrs of age is the law of the land not a school rule....

I don`t think that`s quite true Rowlf, although it should be.
Illegal to sell tobacco to under eighteens, but not a criminal offence for under 16`s to smoke (in private).

Citizens Advice - At what age can I legally drink alcohol and smoke?

Children and Young Persons Act 1933

Rowlf · 18-10-2013, 14:48

Well in my book giving the cigarettes back to the children is ever bit as bad as buying them for them. A school playground can hardly be classed as 'private' either.

gpick24 · 18-10-2013, 15:08

Like I said, it should be.

Eric · 18-10-2013, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Rowlf

Read in the paper this morning that kids in a school in Leeds have had their cigarettes taken from them only to have them given back at lunchtime and break times so they can smoke them in a special area in the playground !!! What is the world coming to ? Smoking under 16yrs of age is the law of the land not a school rule. I think the school in question needs a head teacher like Mabel Horne,late of Accrington High School. I can imagine what she would have thought of it all.

Shocking ... kids should be forced to smoke in the bogs as we were.

jaysay · 18-10-2013, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Rowlf

Well in my book giving the cigarettes back to the children is ever bit as bad as buying them for them. A school playground can hardly be classed as 'private' either.

Teachers have to be careful these days, just what they can and can't do, remember the European Human Rights Act

When I was at school if a teacher had found fags on you they would have been confiscated, full stop, but they can't do that today, sadly

Sunflower49 · 18-10-2013, 18:47

Illegal to sell cigarettes to an under 18 year old, not illegal for an under 16 to smoke.

Not surprised at this really. When I was at college there was a smoking room in the rivalling college (one reason I didn't choose it)!albeit this was ages 16 and up.

I suppose the only redeeming part of this is that teenagers love to rebel, and a lot of them I am guessing only smoke because of this. It could make it not as attractive to them, although this isn't the reasoning behind it.

Eric · 18-10-2013, 18:48

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Teachers have to be careful these days, just what they can and can't do, remember the European Human Rights Act

When I was at school if a teacher had found fags on you they would have been confiscated, full stop, but they can't do that today, sadly

But back in the day, all the teachers smoked ... and the pay wasn't all that hot; so, three crumpled 'bines was a welcome addition to their tobacco stash

I can see them in the staff room, passing around a Woodbine until someone called for a pin to get the last two drags out of it

But I do agree with your point that when Human Rights Acts trump common sense and doing what is right, they become, well, silly ... silly, trivial, and bloody annoying.

We all know, in a general sense, what "common sense" is; we all know wrong from right ... though we may argue about details. Well, maybe not all of us ... there's a bunch of folks in Westminster, Ottawa, and, most def., Washington D.C. and Brussels (?), etc. .......................

DaveinGermany · 18-10-2013, 19:36

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Shocking ... kids should be forced to smoke in the bogs as we were.

Luxury ..... sheer luxury, indoors in the bogs? We had to make do with a scabby, cold, old bike shed!

Eric · 19-10-2013, 00:21

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Luxury ..... sheer luxury, indoors in the bogs? We had to make do with a scabby, cold, old bike shed!

Mmm ... guess you never smelled the bog at Accy Grammar ... smelled worse than an anchovie's asshole

... not quite as bad as the bog by the bus stop at the Forts, but gettin' there ... I've smelled better bogs in France for chrissake

cmonstanley · 19-10-2013, 00:40

that's funny how can Scotland ban smoking in public places I think saying it is do with the European human rights act is rubbish . misinformed is the word

Eric · 19-10-2013, 01:31

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

that's funny how can Scotland ban smoking in public places I think saying it is do with the European human rights act is rubbish . misinformed is the word

I'm assuming this is a quote from "Finnegans Wake"

accyman · 19-10-2013, 09:43

i remember in biology the teacher pulled ouot a machine that you placed a lit ciggy in and it would draw the ciggy as if it was been smoked.We were then shown what was left behind on a scrap of cloth which was all the tar and bad stuff and told that was what you were taking into your lungs

the ciggys used were ones confiscated from kids

as far as i know the remainder of the pack was not given back to the kid in question

Gordon Booth · 19-10-2013, 14:17

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as far as i know the remainder of the pack was not given back to the kid in question

Of course not, the teacher smoked them.

Sunflower49 · 21-10-2013, 11:37

Smoking was really strictly condemned at the school I went to-and from my parent's rule, I wasn't even allowed to associate with any pupils or other friends who smoked, but there was never any teachings about it.

Just smoking=bad-that was that!