Snowball Incident

[Caz]

What do you all think of this?

Whether or not the lad was innocent or guilty is another matter, but reckon the driver was totally out of order in his actions.
Rishton boy, 12, 'arrested' by motorist after snowball thrown at car (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Comment posted at 5.06pm makes interesting reading though...wonder what Granddad thinks about that???

[Lilly]

Originally Posted by Caz

What do you all think of this?

Whether or not the lad was innocent or guilty is another matter, but reckon the driver was totally out of order in his actions.
Rishton boy, 12, 'arrested' by motorist after snowball thrown at car (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Comment posted at 5.06pm makes interesting reading though...wonder what Granddad thinks about that???

Yes, it is very annoying to have snowballs thrown at your car.

However, surely everybody knows that you can't just go bundling other people's kids into the back of your car and driving away with them.

[katex]

Nearly put this up myself Caz, just couldn't make my mind up how I felt about it ..

It was rather controversial to put the lad in the car, and, yes, he would say that it was not him that threw one of the snowballs wouldn't he ?

I have done this myself in Clayton a couple of times. Once on Barnes Square with my grandaughter in the car .. she had her passenger window open, and this gang of about 12 lads hurled one into my car. Hmm messy. I, naturally, saw Red, got out and chased them across the Barnes Square Methodist Church grounds. 'Course couldn't catch them .. not sure what I would have done if I had.

The second time was in Grange Street. Lads sat on the park wall .. again grandaughter in car, bloody furious I can tell you. Stopped car ... few of the cowards ran off. The two that stood their ground refused cockily to give me their name and address, but I managed to get a few choice words in of the dangers of this 'sport'. Not a good result at all really ... so maybe would have been better chucking one of 'em into the back of the car and planting on the doorstep of the Police Station.

[Caz]

Getting out of the car to confront them is one thing. What this guy did is another.

He possibly didn't have the actual culprit

He doesn't have any evidence anyway

He left himself open to other accusations

If he had injured the child, guilty or innocent he would have been in trouble.

I know how annoying this is, having experience of it in cars, and in lorries

All you can really do is inform the police that it's going on in whatever area. This has gone on for years on end.

[steeljack]

Amazing how the excuse is its allways someones elses kid and never their own . At least the Police showed a bit of sense , maybe the fact that he had his own child in the car at the time was a factor in not deciding to charge him with kidnapping .

[Taggy]

Had one chucked at me yesterday whilst driving on Harvey Street...must admit i felt like doing what this chap did!! These things are always made to sound like someone is overreacting i know, but what if an accident had been caused, someone could be killed. If the driver had his window down, and it hit him in the face could have caused injury...would it have been classed as an asault then? Its hard to know these PC days what is the right thing to do. Years ago if this had happened, the driver would have got out, given the lad a clip round the ear, asked him where he lived, and told his parents...who probably would then give him another clip from the ear!!...Today that would be regarded as assault, and even having a word with the lads would probably have resulted in more verbal abuse from them!....So perhaps it seems like he overreacted, but we can all relate to his frustration and anger...he did have his young daughter in the car also. So i for one, am not going to be too critical of the chap!

Best Regards - Taggy

[shillelagh]

Why didnt the telegraph get in touch with the driver that may have given a balanced view.

I've seen kids chucking snowballs at cars and lorries and buses going past my house ..in fact on tuesday night they chucked one at my house and hit the window and i went out and they were making a pile of snowballs to chuck at the cars they legged it when i shouted at them.

Thing is the kids think that chucking a snowball at a car/lorry/bus is great fun - its soft and wont cause any damage and its a bigger target than their mates back. They dont think that a driver may see a snowball coming out of the corner of his eye and swerve and aim into a wall, bus stop, to avoid it. Could you imagine a lorry swerving on a slippy road, and people walking on the opposite side of the road .... and the lorry cant stop and hit the people ...

Cant make my mind up if he was right to bundle him into the car, but he was right to report it and when the police was talking to the kid why did they not ask him who threw the snowball and then visit him.

[derekgas]

Well for me, a clip round the ear would have been better, but probably would have resulted in the motorist being arrested, it is a joke to say the man should have called it in to the police, he would have had frostbite by the time they turned up, all the unmarked police cars that make mincemeat of motorists should be out on patrol when it snows and drag the little beggars of to court for a heavy fine, maybe then, the parents would give a monkeys what thier little cherubs are up to. The drivers actions were wrong, but I cant say I blame him.

[katex]

If this lass got an a* in English, will agree that GSCE's are a fix :-

rishtowner, rishton says...
9:00pm Fri 5 Dec 08
**** you all if your that bothered chek the cctv cameras we would see wht happened den get a life ! have you got nout beta 2 do on friday nite than comment on storys on the internet you can say **** bout ppl online is that ment to make you hard danny is my little brother he is 12 and has never been in trouble his life except from now when he has had a youth refferal of the police for supposedly throwing a " snowball " for a start he was having problems with his asthma at the time when some boys who he was with were throwing snowballs round who nows if it was thrown on purpose but danny ws tking his inhaler and wlking home when the boys ran and the man jumped out the car and grabbed hold of him by his neck drgging him along the ice ANd throwing him into his car there is no prooof it ws my brother danny if he ws a real yob he would hve atlest kicked off but he didnt is this the type of world we live in were any strnger cn assult a child and tke them in there car against there own will with no proof they have done anything wrong !? nd yes i can speel but sumtimes it is easier not 2 . as a matter of fact i hve n a * in english gcse but sumtyms spelling isnt importnt as i dont cre wht you low lifes think of me i only mde this account so i could comment and stick up 4 my brother i no he is innocent and if anyone is bithered enough why dont the police check the cmers as tht will tell who the real criniml is and whoever said danny is going off the rails how hve you got the right to say that the only thing you know bout him is tht he has been accused off throwing a snowball if tht is going off the rils then i dont know wht else 2 say 2 u it wil be wsting my tym as i am not tht sad 2 argue online with ppl i dont know about something i know nothing bout

[Caz]

Think our dog warden is going to be well embarrassed by the comments made in that column! How many people in Hyndburn knew his son in law was in prison...they do now. They also know his grand children are semi literate...even if not guilty of throwing snowballs...

[Lilly]

Originally Posted by katex

If this lass got an a* in English, will agree that GSCE's are a fix :-

rishtowner, rishton says...
9:00pm Fri 5 Dec 08
**** you all if your that bothered chek the cctv cameras we would see wht happened den get a life ! have you got nout beta 2 do on friday nite than comment on storys on the internet you can say **** bout ppl online is that ment to make you hard danny is my little brother he is 12 and has never been in trouble his life except from now when he has had a youth refferal of the police for supposedly throwing a " snowball " for a start he was having problems with his asthma at the time when some boys who he was with were throwing snowballs round who nows if it was thrown on purpose but danny ws tking his inhaler and wlking home when the boys ran and the man jumped out the car and grabbed hold of him by his neck drgging him along the ice ANd throwing him into his car there is no prooof it ws my brother danny if he ws a real yob he would hve atlest kicked off but he didnt is this the type of world we live in were any strnger cn assult a child and tke them in there car against there own will with no proof they have done anything wrong !? nd yes i can speel but sumtimes it is easier not 2 . as a matter of fact i hve n a * in english gcse but sumtyms spelling isnt importnt as i dont cre wht you low lifes think of me i only mde this account so i could comment and stick up 4 my brother i no he is innocent and if anyone is bithered enough why dont the police check the cmers as tht will tell who the real criniml is and whoever said danny is going off the rails how hve you got the right to say that the only thing you know bout him is tht he has been accused off throwing a snowball if tht is going off the rils then i dont know wht else 2 say 2 u it wil be wsting my tym as i am not tht sad 2 argue online with ppl i dont know about something i know nothing bout

Ha haaaaa! If that's true it casts a dark shadow of doubt accross the entire British educational system.

[K-P]

Don't touch other peoples kids..Certainly don't put them in your car!! ... Don't condone it or encourage it.. It's simply wrong!

It's not a matter of "in this day and age" .. It's just wrong..

[garinda]

Originally Posted by steeljack

Amazing how the excuse is its allways someones elses kid and never their own . At least the Police showed a bit of sense , maybe the fact that he had his own child in the car at the time was a factor in not deciding to charge him with kidnapping .

It mighn't be his daughter.

He could have snatched her in Whalley, for throwing snowballs.

I'm suprised the man hasn't been charged with abduction. Happy, but suprised.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by katex

If this lass got an a* in English, will agree that GSCE's are a fix :-

rishtowner, rishton says...
9:00pm Fri 5 Dec 08
**** you all if your that bothered chek the cctv cameras we would see wht happened den get a life ! have you got nout beta 2 do on friday nite than comment on storys on the internet you can say **** bout ppl online is that ment to make you hard danny is my little brother he is 12 and has never been in trouble his life except from now when he has had a youth refferal of the police for supposedly throwing a " snowball " for a start he was having problems with his asthma at the time when some boys who he was with were throwing snowballs round who nows if it was thrown on purpose but danny ws tking his inhaler and wlking home when the boys ran and the man jumped out the car and grabbed hold of him by his neck drgging him along the ice ANd throwing him into his car there is no prooof it ws my brother danny if he ws a real yob he would hve atlest kicked off but he didnt is this the type of world we live in were any strnger cn assult a child and tke them in there car against there own will with no proof they have done anything wrong !? nd yes i can speel but sumtimes it is easier not 2 . as a matter of fact i hve n a * in english gcse but sumtyms spelling isnt importnt as i dont cre wht you low lifes think of me i only mde this account so i could comment and stick up 4 my brother i no he is innocent and if anyone is bithered enough why dont the police check the cmers as tht will tell who the real criniml is and whoever said danny is going off the rails how hve you got the right to say that the only thing you know bout him is tht he has been accused off throwing a snowball if tht is going off the rils then i dont know wht else 2 say 2 u it wil be wsting my tym as i am not tht sad 2 argue online with ppl i dont know about something i know nothing bout

Yeah, but no, but yeah, but only part of the G.C.S.E. is a written examination, there is also the course work, and the oral examination.

[accyman]

lets face it if he rang the police he woulda ben waiting hours for them to turn up.

perhaps if the news Paper put 12 year old yob instead of 12 year old boy peoples reactions would have ben a little different

personaly i would have got the kids address and frog marched him to his parents but then again you never know if teh parents would give a damn or wether or not they would attack you these days

maybe it is best to stick to the policy of letting kids get away with everything as it seems to be the only way of keeping the moaning minnies happy

UNTIL SOMTHING HAPPENS TO THEM THAT IS