So Cameron doesn't want a referendum on in or out of Europe - Page 2

jaysay · 30-06-2012, 15:43

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

While I get what you are saying Cashy, I don't think that UKIP will ever get into power to be able to act on the people will. The only thing that UKIP have in their favour is to scare the bejasus out of the three main parties.....who are so similar now that you could hardly get a sheet of Bronco between them.

Sheet of bronco you've been watching our Tim on bargin hunt too much Margaret

cashman · 30-06-2012, 16:07

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Originally Posted by cashman

Simple fact is,i give people a chance to tell the truth, before i discount em.

Plus only a numpty could imagine em getting in, but enough could vote fer em to worry the others, or is that hard to comprehend?

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

While I get what you are saying Cashy, I don't think that UKIP will ever get into power to be able to act on the people will. The only thing that UKIP have in their favour is to scare the bejasus out of the three main parties.....who are so similar now that you could hardly get a sheet of Bronco between them.

I already said that.

jaysay · 01-07-2012, 09:17

Can't weigh Call me Dave up, he's now saying he could consider a vote on Europe, he changes his mind as regularly as he changes his socks, but if he does it would have to be binding or its not worth a light

Wynonie Harris · 01-07-2012, 11:20

And now this pompous little get has said we can't have an EU referendum until the debt crisis has been sorted, So that'll be sometime never then.

Britain must wait for Europe referendum, says William Hague - Telegraph

DaveinGermany · 01-07-2012, 11:45

Lads, lads you're being conned again ! It's typical bolitico speak, the usually lies & BS, saying what the good peoples of the land want to hear & how they'd really love to do it but ...... then chucking in a disclaimer as to why it's out of their hands & beyond their control due to some nasty peoples (probably the Germans) elsewhere.

claytonx · 01-07-2012, 11:56

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Can't weigh Call me Dave up, he's now saying he could consider a vote on Europe, he changes his mind as regularly as he changes his socks, but if he does it would have to be binding or its not worth a light

He promised that on the Lisbon Treaty then did a U turn. Remember

Margaret Pilkington · 01-07-2012, 12:05

100 of his own backbenchers are currently giving him pain about his refusal to allow a referendum...and some of them are(allegedly) considering defecting to UKIP...we'll wait and see...anyway this bit of political argy bargy keeps the repugnant, slimy, double dealing banking situation off the front pages for the day...though I'm pretty sure that one isn't going away either.

accyman · 01-07-2012, 16:50

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Originally Posted by claytonx

He promised that on the Lisbon Treaty then did a U turn. Remember

camerons done more u-turns than a boy racer with a new handbrake.Hes even done a u-turn on his no u-turns policy.

jaysay · 01-07-2012, 17:28

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Originally Posted by claytonx

He promised that on the Lisbon Treaty then did a U turn. Remember

That was good old Gordon well before Call Me Daves time

claytonx · 01-07-2012, 17:46

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Originally Posted by jaysay

That was good old Gordon well before Call Me Daves time

Confirming a complete U-turn on his "cast iron guarantee" that the Tory government would hold a public vote on the controversial treaty. David Cameron 04/11/2009

Guardian News

DaveinGermany · 01-07-2012, 17:57

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Originally Posted by claytonx

Confirming a complete U-turn on his "cast iron guarantee" that the Tory government would hold a public vote on the controversial treaty. David Cameron 04/11/2009

Guardian News

The "Grauniad", that's why Jay didn't see it.

Stumped · 01-07-2012, 18:30

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Originally Posted by cashman

The main partys will not act on the peoples will, U.K.I.P. on the other hand are more likely too I.M.H.O.

Cameron is on his own, and evidently too stupid and stubborn to have properly considered the weight of opposition from the vast bulk of the electorate against the strictures being imposed on us by Brussels. It seems that the EU exerts such a stranglehold on this once proud nation that our politicians have been cowed into raising the flag of surrender no matter what. Shame on them all.

Retlaw · 01-07-2012, 19:08

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

And now this pompous little get has said we can't have an EU referendum until the debt crisis has been sorted, So that'll be sometime never then.

Britain must wait for Europe referendum, says William Hague - Telegraph

The debt crisis would be a lot better the day after we pulled out of Europe by quite a few billion quid.

Retlaw

garinda · 01-07-2012, 20:38

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Lads, lads you're being conned again ! It's typical bolitico speak, the usually lies & BS, saying what the good peoples of the land want to hear & how they'd really love to do it but ...... then chucking in a disclaimer as to why it's out of their hands & beyond their control due to some nasty peoples (probably the Germans) elsewhere.

I think very few people now believe these empty promises.

Which utter from mainstream politicans mouths, with ever increasing frequency, the nearer we draw to an Election...and they start to run scared.

My X will be a protest vote, because this important issue goes to the very core of all our lives.

If people don't have a democratic right to decide our own future, that future looks very bleak indeed.

Nevermind this sceptred isle...set in a silver sea, the prophecy about 'rivers of blood' will be much more likely, if this question isn't addressed soon.

ToffeeGuy · 01-07-2012, 22:32

If we did vote to leave the EU who's going to make sure my banana is straight?

It will NEVER happen.