So much so for the police stamping out racism

[Bonnyboy]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

People should be judged on one thing and one thing only when applying for a job - and that is their ability to do it.

Agree that's the only thing that should matter.

[wadey]

Funny how they never ever complained when being promoted year after year. They (everybody) needs to be told that they cannot all be Chief Constable/Prime Minister/Admiral or whatever it is.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

Of course the more astute people watching todays news will know that I have missed the most obvious part of Ms Harmans plans out of the above quote as to who will be discrimated against

Whilst watching the fragrant Ms Harman hold forth in her usual condescending, patronising manner, my first thought was "what planet are these people living on?" The people of this country, male and female, from every ethnic background, face real and very pressing problems and the government are wasting their time on utter drivel like this.

What's more, the proposals are a real insult to the many women and members of ethnic minorites who simple get on with their job/career/life and don't play the race/gender card. My wife arrived in this country 23 years ago and has built up a successful career for herself. She would be appalled to think that even the smallest element of her success was down to her race or gender, rather than hard work and ability.

I really do think this government have lost the plot!

[Eric]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

People should be judged on one thing and one thing only when applying for a job - and that is their ability to do it.

Unfortunately that doesn't always happen. On this side of the pond, in both Canada and the US, there have been major problems when Affirmative Action policies have been put in place. Some members of minority communties want their members hired because they belong to a minority, not because they are the best qualified. The problem is very complex, many minorities get a poor start in the education system because they belong to a particular minority ... I am thinking of the poor, First Nations people, and blacks from the large cities. To eliminate discrimination in hiring it is wrong to start at the hiring level; work has to be done at the elementary, secondary, and post-secondary school levels first.

[Bonnyboy]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Whilst watching the fragrant Ms Harman hold forth in her usual condescending, patronising manner, my first thought was "what planet are these people living on?" The people of this country, male and female, from every ethnic background, face real and very pressing problems and the government are wasting their time on utter drivel like this.

What's more, the proposals are a real insult to the many women and members of ethnic minorites who simple get on with their job/career/life and don't play the race/gender card. My wife arrived in this country 23 years ago and has built up a successful career for herself. She would be appalled to think that even the smallest element of her success was down to her race or gender, rather than hard work and ability.

I really do think this government have lost the plot!

It’s poor legislation all round, it’s condescending/patronising to, women and ethnic minorities.

I just cannot fathom how anti discriminatory legislation which openly discriminates is a step in the right direction.

[garinda]

Can't really comment as to whether this case is racist or not, without more evidence.

It could very well be, or it could just be a case of sour grapes.

I suspect there are racists in the police, just as there are in every profession, but thankfully there are laws in place which make it illegal, if brought to light.

Not really a race issue, but this recent story certainly highlights religious intolerance at work within our police force.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...irmingham.html

[LYNX1]

There is racism everywhere................you don't have to be black or asian (these seem to be the most prevelant "minorities" screaming racism)..............it's about time they started to realise that it might be that they are not up to the job.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by mani

they cant even be equal to their own!

Come on Mani..you can't "stamp out" racism.. it's embeded in some people.. if I had a choice I'd prefer racism to colour predujice ..to judge people on the colour of skin is illogical, immature and nonsense..to judge people on the country they were born or thier nationality is natural.

[steeljack]

just a thought , but i think some 'white' resentment comes from the fact that 'ethnics' cant be trusted to join into the democratic political process without religion or tribalism rearing its ugly head , something most 'northern europeans' got rid off generations ago , sorry if it sounds paternalistic , but probably lots of English folks thought the Irish in Ulster during the troubles in the 60s/70s/80s were no better or different than Mugabes supporters in the present time

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Mancie

to judge people on the country they were born or thier nationality is natural.

Is it?...I would have thought that judging someone on the country they come from is just as illogical and immature as judging them on the colour of their skin. Surely, everyone should be judged on their own individual merits - not on their race or country of origin - and that's exactly the point that most people are trying to make on this thread!

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Is it?...I would have thought that judging someone on the country they come from is just as illogical and immature as judging them on the colour of their skin. Surely, everyone should be judged on their own individual merits - not on their race or country of origin - and that's exactly the point that most people are trying to make on this thread!

Yes i'd go along with that Wynonie..but don't really care.. many people will say , in comfort, that they don't like French or Germans..are they racist or predudice?.. personally it would be the bods that discriminate against the colouir of people.. that may not be racist.. but I think it is sick.

[jaysay]

I think the one thing that shows this farce up for what it is, is the fact that this police officers is being supported by "The Black Police Officers Association" now how racist is that, you can bet your bottom dollar that if there was a White Police Oficers Association there would be hell to pay

[WillowTheWhisp]

There shouldn't need to be a "black" anything or an "Asian" anythuing and until we treat everyone equally and just have a "police officers association" for black white and sky blue pink with yellow dots on we will always have racism.

As for that policeman and the Christian preachers it sounds like he was more anti-American than anything, but was he really as aggressive as they make out or was he merely advising them for their own good that handing out Christian leaflets and trying to convert Muslims is a pretty dumb idea unless you really understand what happens if a Muslim converts to Christianity.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I think the one thing that shows this farce up for what it is, is the fact that this police officers is being supported by "The Black Police Officers Association" now how racist is that, you can bet your bottom dollar that if there was a White Police Oficers Association there would be hell to pay

that to me is utterly crazy, its more racist than the actual racists in the police force, it gives me the impression that these members have NO INTENTION of integrating,n the clowns that allow these factions to exist are completley clueless.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

that to me is utterly crazy, its more racist than the actual racists in the police force, it gives me the impression that these members have NO INTENTION of integrating,n the clowns that allow these factions to exist are completley clueless.

Ya thats right cashy, but you never here the PC brigade saying anything about things like this, theres the MOBO awards or Music of Black Origin, Black Trade Unions ect ect ect, how can anybody promote anti-racism when bodies like these are aloud tho function unchallenged