Some questions on the Asian Earthquake - Page 2

Doug · 10-10-2005, 23:31

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

"THE BOMB STILL THE ULTIMATE DETERENT" yes and the unfortunate thing is that those who want it are the poorest states, who think it will make them secure. A damning inditement of the times we live in. Untill these nations fell safe they will carry on developing them at the expense of their own people. Yet even with that these poor people need our help and it might create a smidgin of trust between nations. Its sad that earthquakes and sunamis are needed to bring use together.

Again well stated.

Doug · 10-10-2005, 23:39

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Originally Posted by garinda

I agree Doug, the scenes were heartbreaking, and like Willow said, most of the victims seem to be children who had just gone into school.

However I do think that a country with such a poor population, and very little infrastructure in place, does spend too much of it's gross national income on arms.

I also think we do, but in relation to Pakistan we have the luxury of wealth to do so.

I’ like to say Bo**ocks but it’s not allowed. Look on a map; look at the size of that country and the length and complexity of its borders. The aggressors that threaten them are of our making for god sake and If they are poor, we may have had something to do with it and we most likely still take money out of the place. People die in this country because the NHS can’t afford the drugs that will keep them alive so are we really that rich?

garinda · 10-10-2005, 23:45

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Originally Posted by Doug

are we really that rich?

In relation to Pakistan? Er...yes.

I can't remember seeing limbless children begging in the streets in England, otherwise they'd die of starvation, which I have in India.

The N.H.S does have it's problems, but at least we have one.

Doug · 10-10-2005, 23:54

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Originally Posted by garinda

In relation to Pakistan? Er...yes.

I can't remember seeing limbless children begging in the streets in England, otherwise they'd die of starvation, which I have in India.

The N.H.S does have it's problems, but at least we have one.

Now then just be careful with that dummy. We wouldn’t want it to pop out………. You’re describing almost every nation state east of Turkey. The pity is my friend is we sold them a lot of the arms that put limbless kids on the streets. Mainly anti personnel and land mines…….

garinda · 10-10-2005, 23:59

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Originally Posted by Doug

Now then just be careful with that dummy. We wouldn’t want it to pop out………. You’re describing almost every nation state east of Turkey. The pity is my friend is we sold them a lot of the arms that put limbless kids on the streets. Mainly anti personnel and land mines…….

So we agree.

Buying arms when your population is malnourished is a bad thing.

P.S. I can name at least ten nations off the top of my head east of Turkey, that doesn't have starving children begging in the streets.

Doug · 11-10-2005, 00:08

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Originally Posted by garinda

So we agree.

Buying arms when your population is malnourished is a bad thing.

P.S. I can name at least ten nations off the top of my head east of Turkey, that doesn't have starving children begging in the streets.

Clever little flower bud……..

Can you; please do so as I am sure your right but I bet they have stock piles of mines in their armouries with “Made in Britain” stamped on the bit that goes Bang..

garinda · 11-10-2005, 00:23

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Originally Posted by Doug

Clever little flower bud……..

Can you; please do so as I am sure your right but I bet they have stock piles of mines in their armouries with “Made in Britain” stamped on the bit that goes Bang..

Japan, Australia, North and South Korea, Saudi Arabia....... want me to go on?

Yes some have bought arms from us, but all don't have the same levels of poverty as they do on the Indian subcontinent.

BumFace · 11-10-2005, 11:23

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Originally Posted by garinda

I can't remember seeing limbless children begging in the streets in England, otherwise they'd die of starvation, which I have in India.

You've died of starvation in India? Or are you just poorly punctuationally-educated?

Margaret Pilkington · 11-10-2005, 14:18

Of course you are right Willow, I just find it ironic, but laudable.... that the ambulance personnel and the firemen have gone out there to help.......and yes, of course all people in Kashmir and Pakistan should not be tarred with the brush of terrorism........The aid being given is humanitarian........and as you say, bears no grudges.......so we should be proud of these selfless volunteers.

accymel · 11-10-2005, 14:26

There has been a good point raised here, that the wests are very bad & so called evil by millitants of those countries yet are sooo quick to take whatever is offered from them though. I mean why should those countries help their own when wests bail them out so they can afford rucksacks & explosives to attack innocent people!! Maybe god has spoken.

accymel · 11-10-2005, 14:30

Thing that is curious to me & has been brought up in the news is that their country is on the borders of tectonic plates & that earthquakes & Tsuarmi's are of apparent that the buildings weren't upto specification & was unable to withstand the quake seemingly their gov has done nothing to protect their people.

Bagpuss · 11-10-2005, 20:47

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Originally Posted by accymel

There has been a good point raised here, that the wests are very bad & so called evil by millitants of those countries yet are sooo quick to take whatever is offered from them though. I mean why should those countries help their own when wests bail them out so they can afford rucksacks & explosives to attack innocent people!! Maybe god has spoken.

Wow accymel thank you for giving us a post that's to the point instead of all the b*lls*it that is being posted.

What really annoyed me today was the sight of two muslims collecting for the appeal, the same two that that where deliberately making noise when we had two minutes silence only a few months ago for the London bombing, what goes around comes around so they say.

garinda · 11-10-2005, 21:17

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Originally Posted by BumFace

You've died of starvation in India? Or are you just poorly punctuationally-educated?

Obviously both, but unlike you I don't resort to text speak, as can be seen from one of your post below, unless it's to be amusing of course.

Wonder wot he's doing now? I met the old head-teacher, the one after Mr Cassidy, his name excapes me, on the train the other week and he had some fond memories of the Carmel.

West Ender · 11-10-2005, 21:37

Does it matter what the Pakistani Government or the rebel-rousers are doing/have done? Innocent people have died or are in great need.

I hate the extremist terrorists as much as any of you but I still feel compassion for my fellow human beings. How can you look at pictures from the devastated areas and think only of evil, fanatical people who hate the West in their twisted ideology? I see only orphaned children and grieving parents, people who have lost everything and are suffering. In the name of Humanity they deserve our help.

Doug · 11-10-2005, 21:48

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Originally Posted by West Ender

Does it matter what the Pakistani Government or the rebel-rousers are doing/have done? Innocent people have died or are in great need.

I hate the extremist terrorists as much as any of you but I still feel compassion for my fellow human beings. How can you look at pictures from the devastated areas and think only of evil, fanatical people who hate the West in their twisted ideology? I see only orphaned children and grieving parents, people who have lost everything and are suffering. In the name of Humanity they deserve our help.

West Ender I am sure that many people agree with your sentiments. Having just watched the evening news and seeing the atrocious conditions out there and knowing how those conditions are going to effect the survivors over the next few months I can only say that I am personally ashamed at some of the responses that I have see over the last few day’s.