Some questions on the Asian Earthquake - Page 3

mani · 12-10-2005, 03:09

excellant thread and some very very good posts.

as someone said the bomb is the ultimate deterrant. when ur faced with a rival country who is next door and is bigger and better than u - u dont have much choice but try to match it. not quite next door but the whole ussr vs usa is a prime example of this.

i know alot of people are going on about the people who mocked the tsunami and mocked the hurricanes. but think of this. what wud make a great tabloid headline - a joe average guy sayin how upset he is about this or a rare loony who shouts out from the rooftop?

there's been quite a strong feelin of anger amongst asians themselves at those who said such things bout USA and the tsunami etc. what u have to remember is that there are twisted people who will shout at the top of the voice that an american bomb blew up a mosque yet they'll fully support a group who's muslim and blown one up killing 50.

i'm not sayin that anyone deserves a natural disaster or death. but the asian community and most the muslim pakistani community needed a reminder that no one is invicible from the wrath of god. as it says in the bible let he who is without sin caste the first stone. but people forget that. yes it is ramadam right now. and maybe it was the best time for god to remind his followers i am here.

i dont know how much u guys follow the goings on in pakistan but my view is that since the general took over the rule by force a few years back this is the best thing to happen for a long time. long has corruption been bleeding the country dry - people linging their own pockets. yes its goin on now but things have been done never before imagined. the strict control on the mosques and madrassas would never have been dreamed of. yet it is coming into place. the mention of pakistans weapon expenditure, it wud've been unimagined that indian soliders would be in pakistan BY INVITE helping out the old enemy. yet they are. 50 years of hate. 3 wars. many major skirmishes cannot be forgotton in 5 years. how long will it take for the people to trust sinn fien and the ira? imagine that then you will know what steps pakistan and india are taking to eliminate that hate. in the earthquake in india four years ago it refused all aid yet accepted two plane loads of aid from pakistan. steps are being taken to mend those bridges. it isnt easy both sides have people who hate the other more than you can imagine.

it was inevitable that people wud make such comments aobut pakistan, its people and the british pakistani's here. in some way the comments are a harsh reply to the community's two facedness. they are more than willing to spew the hate for uk and usa yet are more than happy to stay here and live off the system. as a muslim i feel there has been an almost deafning silence to terrorism and al qaeda until 7/7 happened. then it was our back yard and people spoke up. but still i felt it wasnt enough. instead of saying look at how we integrate i feel that the response of the muslim council was protect us and our interests.

but thats my two cents i think... i cud go on all day

Kilin_Joke · 12-10-2005, 03:21

You Sad Sick Bitter Old Man

Mik Dickinson · 12-10-2005, 07:02

all in all there are bad on each side.What it boils down to now is the young, old and people that are in general need.In helping these people maybe the general public in Pakistan will see that the West helps them no matter what they have been preached to by Bin L and his decrepid mates and followers.
Would or could any of us walk past someone dieing in the gutter? I think not.

WillowTheWhisp · 12-10-2005, 08:24

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Originally Posted by Mik Dickinson

Would or could any of us walk past someone dieing in the gutter? I think not.

I would hope not Mik.

It's heartbreaking seeing/hearing the news of this tragedy, especially the children with the look of fear and bewilderment on their faces.

There have been so many terrible things recently both man-made and natural disasters and sometimes I feel totally helpless. The relief effort seems to be muddled but at least some is getting where it is needed even if it isn't very well co-ordinated yet.

There was a man on the radio this morning who has family over there (as do so many people in this country) and he said he is going over there, taking money so he can get them rented accommodation as their house was destroyed. I thought he was being a bit naive because whole towns and villages have been destroyed. Where does he think he is going to find somewhere for them to rent? They are talking on the news about needing tents for shelter! I don't think he's really prepared for what he will find over there.

I do hope like you Mik that the ordinary people will see that help is coming from all types of people of many beliefs, muslim, hindu, sikh, Christian, atheist at times like this. If any good comes out of it at all perhaps it will be that people are not so blindly led by bigots.

garinda · 12-10-2005, 11:15

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Originally Posted by Kilin_Joke

You Sad Sick Bitter Old Man

Along with other mistakes in the above statement, you'll find Mani is actually six years younger than you.

mani · 12-10-2005, 13:48

*L* woohoo i'm younger than someone!

the most likely scenario for people who's houses have been destroyed and do not have family in the uk is that they will emigrate to other areas which are better off. my home in pakistan is about a few hrs drive from there and we do get alot of folk coming in from the hilly regions lookin for work etc and offering to look after ur house whilst ur out of the country

for the ppl who are lucky enough to have relatives here most likely they'll decide to move stock and move to the cities as they have nothign tying them down. too many bad memories

SPUGGIE J · 12-10-2005, 17:34

Several days after the incident the company puts this into my inbox;

Saturday's earthquake in Pakistan has reached catastrophic proportions, with
an estimated death toll of over 41,000. Although weather conditions have
slowed the response of aid to the many victims, relief continues to be provided
by agencies on site.

As a global corporate citizen and community partner in well over 50 countries
around the world, Sun wants to do its part. In addition to providing links to
websites where you can make contributions to reputable organizations, Sun's
Foundation also provides employee matching, based on guidelines.

Sun's Global Government and Community Affairs organization has recently
established an online disaster relief drive, hosted by non-profit organization and
Sun partner, Aidmatrix. This is a new year-round offering to help employees
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this site, employees can have their donations automatically matched by the
Sun Foundation. Gift matching guidelines and limits will apply.

Visit our Disaster Relief website for links to information on donating, matching
gifts guidelines and current updates on the Pakistan earthquake.

garinda · 13-10-2005, 00:16

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Originally Posted by Kilin_Joke

You Sad Sick Bitter Old Man

Try waiting a bit until you have power before you try and take karma off me, and if you haven't got the balls to sign it Make Sure That You Don't Start Every Word With A Capital Letter, It Was A Dead Give Away.

Doug · 13-10-2005, 00:24

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Originally Posted by garinda

Try waiting a bit until you have power before you try and take karma off me, and if you haven't got the balls to sign it Make Sure That You Don't Start Every Word With A Capital Letter, It Was A Dead Give Away.

Why? What Did He Say Rindy......

garinda · 13-10-2005, 00:27

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Originally Posted by Doug

Why? What Did He Say Rindy......

He said....

Don't Feed The Troll *****

..about my post defending Mani's post, were he called him names, and which I thought was a very reasoned post.

Doug · 13-10-2005, 00:30

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Originally Posted by garinda

He said....

Don't Feed The Troll ******.

..about my post defending Mani's post, were he called him names, and which I thought was a very reasoned post.

You can’t say that even if he is one…..Please edit your post, I’d hate you to get into trouble.

garinda · 13-10-2005, 00:40

It's only disallowed with a lower case letter. Surely you remember that from your chatroom days?

What's wrong with Troll anyway?

Roy · 13-10-2005, 05:36

I've edited your post garinda as it isn't really appropriate. I've also checked your reputation comments and that word was not present. Also, it wasn't from killin joke and it included some good advice.

WillowTheWhisp · 13-10-2005, 07:03

Oh dear, that's what comes of emulating Sherlock. I do hope somebody didn't capitalise with the specific intention of misleading Garinda.

Psssst - Doug, now you are the one with the dodgy word in your post!

Doug · 13-10-2005, 09:15

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Oh dear, that's what comes of emulating Sherlock. I do hope somebody didn't capitalise with the specific intention of misleading Garinda.

Psssst - Doug, now you are the one with the dodgy word in your post!

Psssst - Not anymore.........