Speed Camera Sites - Page 2

jambutty · 26-11-2006, 18:45

Actually chav1 cameras will also show motorists entering a box junction when the exit is not clear and getting stuck in the box and also red light jumpers and amber gamblers. Those last two are more dangerous than someone narrowly exceeding the speed limit.

If the motorist wants to get rid of all the ‘spy’ cameras the solution is quite simple. Obey the Highway Code. Is that too difficult for some people to understand? I guess it is.

entwisi · 26-11-2006, 18:57

Chav
There are new laser guns that don't suffer the issue you mention, plus the way they work they are able to cathc you at well over 1km.(The laser only needs a 1/2 second lock on you to get a reading.

panther · 26-11-2006, 19:34

dont speed you dont get flashed, simple

chav1 · 26-11-2006, 20:11

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Originally Posted by jambutty

Actually chav1 cameras will also show motorists entering a box junction when the exit is not clear and getting stuck in the box and also red light jumpers and amber gamblers.

in hudersfield the traffic lights flash you when you go through amber

the driving rules state that it is ok to go through amber so they shouldnt be getting flashed , simple as that otherwise every driving instructor and driving examiner in the country is wrong

flashy · 26-11-2006, 20:14

just been talking to one of my mates on the phone, she was going towards the traffic lights on whitebirk road the other week and got zapped by a mobile police camera, she got fined £60 and six points on her license, she cant understand why or how she was speeding though,she was coming up to traffic lights...how?

entwisi · 26-11-2006, 20:16

the rules say that you should STOP unless it is unsafe to do so!!!!!

Even when it is safe to do so though some idiots who believe what you do drive in the back of you and break your back though. And yes I speak from experience.

chav1 · 26-11-2006, 20:22

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Originally Posted by entwisi

the rules say that you should STOP unless it is unsafe to do so!!!!!

Even when it is safe to do so though some idiots who believe what you do drive in the back of you and break your back though. And yes I speak from experience.

then it is legal to go through on amber how the hell does a camera know if its safe or not, they should not be flashing until a red light is violated , pretty simple realy

if you got slammed into at an amber light then obviously it wasnt safe to stop and you should have gone through it

i cant be the only person in the country that has noticed teh lights change to amber as you are almost right next to them , by your rules i should slam on and have the guy behind ram me up the arse, the cameras shoudl not trigger until red as that is teh only colour on teh traffic lights that it is illigal to go through

if they want money for going through on amber then going through on amber shoudl be made illigal but up to yet it isnt

entwisi · 26-11-2006, 20:33

Nope, it was safe to stop. The person behind me in her own words said, "Oh hes a biker, I thought he'd go through so I accelerated to nip through after him, by the time I saw hed stopped I was going too fast."

I agree that it shouldn't trigger till red

The correct method to use is to set a point in the road and simply if you reach that point before it goes to amber you go through, if it changes before you stop. I actually find there is normally the arrows painted on the road that is at a suitable point

chav1 · 26-11-2006, 21:31

hey i agree its daft that people accelerate to get through on amber i was just trying to make my point that the cameras shuoldnt trigger until red , becaue they trigger on amber (and i speak from experience) peopel are slamming on at the amber lights which although may get you a nice compensation claim if somone rams you from behind can still be very dangerous and painfull

maybe anothe colour is needed lol

green = go

amber = lights gonna change soon

blue = i said lights are gonna change soon

red = ok bloody stop will ya

katex · 26-11-2006, 22:17

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Originally Posted by chav1

hey i agree its daft that people accelerate to get through on amber i was just trying to make my point that the cameras shuoldnt trigger until red , becaue they trigger on amber (and i speak from experience) peopel are slamming on at the amber lights which although may get you a nice compensation claim if somone rams you from behind can still be very dangerous and painfull

maybe anothe colour is needed lol

green = go

amber = lights gonna change soon

blue = i said lights are gonna change soon

red = ok bloody stop will ya

I think it is quite sensible to accelerate if the lights change to amber if you are next in line at the lights and would be dangerous to suddenly slam on at amber due to the fear of someone hitting you up the backside >> sorry Entwisi. Problem is, you have to be aware that someone may do this. The old question isn't it ? What does it mean if the lights are on green ... "Means go?" "No, means they can change at any minute to warn you to stop"

entwisi · 27-11-2006, 08:03

We aren't talking of people 'slamming on' that would clearly fall into the not safe to stop catagory. I suffered because someone didn't pay attention, made assumptions and was in the ususal impatient manner that a lot of drivers seem to be.

I had stopped and put my foot down before she hit me, so based on she would have been at least 20 ft behind me before we started braking and the fact I stopped 6ft before the line (And I didn't slam on, I slowed down to a stop as normal) she could have easily stopped and therefore it was safe to stop so she clearly should have done.

"Don't be an Amber Gambler!"

jambutty · 27-11-2006, 09:08

Sorry katex but your interpretation of the meaning of green is erroneous.

Taken from http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs01.htm
RED - means 'Stop'. Wait behind the stop line on the carriageway.
RED & AMBER - also means 'Stop'. Do not pass through or start until GREEN shows.
GREEN - means you may go on if the way is clear. Take special care if you intend to turn left or right and give way to pedestrians who are crossing.
AMBER - means 'Stop' at the stopline. You may go on only if the AMBER appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident.
A GREEN ARROW - may be provided in addition to the full green signal if movement in a certain direction is allowed before or after the full green phase. If the way is clear you may go but only in the direction shown by the arrow. You may do this whatever other lights may be showing. White light signals may be provided for trams.

WillowTheWhisp · 27-11-2006, 09:59

Excellent Jambutty. Perhaps people would do well to remind themselves of that from time to time. How many people who have passed their test will tell you "Green means go, red means stop and amber means get ready to stop."

We were once stopped by the police for "speeding" along Hyndburn Road when other cars were actually overtaking us but as we were (even according to our own speedo) doing more than 30mph at the time we really didn't feel justified in complaining about it.

I do think sometimes it's taken to extremes and there are also many other causes of accidents. Sometimes constant checking of your speedo can mean you don't have your eyes on the road and could miss a child darting out in front of you for instance. We've had that too - a kid lying horizontal on a skateboard careering down the pavement suddenly hit a stone or something which sent him off course and into the road right in front of us. It frightened me to death.

There is also the point that some of these hand held devices have been proved to be inaccurate and even take a small movement of the arm holding the thing into account and add it to the speed of a vehicle being 'clocked'. But wanting to know where speed cameras are just so you can avoid them and exceed the limit elsewhere is not a particularly brilliant idea.

entwisi · 27-11-2006, 10:32

but they aren't speed cameras, they are safety cameras (well according to our gov they are) so knowing where they are should tell you where accident blackspots are (Yeah, right!)

jambutty · 27-11-2006, 12:10

Thanks WillowTheWhisp.

Any driver worthy of the name should be able to judge his/her speed without constantly looking at the speedo, especially at 30 mph. Well they should if they are ‘in tune’ with the car. I don’t know about anyone else but I can ‘feel’ the speed at 30 mph. There is a car vibration ‘feel’ about travelling at 30 mph in top or next to top gear. There is a different ‘feel’ about my car at different speeds even with the radio/DVD player belting out my driving music.

It is all about concentration and being aware of the road, not just ahead in the road but the pavements too. If you see a child or children on the pavement, a driver should be ready for one of them to do something silly. Nowadays that also applies to adults especially near a pub or in town. If you see an animal ahead on the pavement not on a leash, expect it to dash across the road. I’m not suggesting that you should slow down and irate drivers behind you, just be ready for the unexpected and gain half a second before having to take action.

Unfortunately we drivers are not blessed with X-Ray vision so we will not see someone stepping into the road from behind a parked vehicle. Having said that if there are pedestrians on the pavement then you have to expect it to happen. If you are overtaking a bus that has stopped to disembark passengers you have to expect that some clown will to try and cross the road in front of it. Everyone seems to be in such a hurry to get to hospital or the morgue these days that many pedestrians seem to have lost the art of crossing the road safely, not just for them but also for the traffic. It’s amazing how many pedestrians will see a car approaching, look away and still step out onto the road.

My worst nightmare is approaching a blind bend on a country road where I am on the inside of the bend. Oncoming traffic will invariable cut their corner, leaving me with nowhere to go.