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View Poll Results: Should the number of MP's be reduced from 646 to around half of that?
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I like the political set up as it is
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We don't need 646 MP's and the country can't afford them
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04-07-2008, 09:40
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Re: Squandered.......
The Mail have published a list of MPs who voted to keep the existing expenses system
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-expenses.html
glad to see that Greg Pope didn't
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04-07-2008, 09:48
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Re: Squandered.......
thanks fer the link margaret, interesting reading, all that voted to retain should be ashamed of themselves,but somehow i doubt they will, same as cyfr, who is playing slag the opposition again.
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04-07-2008, 10:12
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Re: Squandered.......
I see that my MP, Janet Anderson, wants to keep on the gravy train.
She wouldn’t have got my vote next time anyway but this makes sure.
It would appear that they voted to keep the existing expenses AND reject an independent audit.
It would be interesting to see the actual wording of the vote options. Because there is more to this than meets the eye.
As I understand it one option was to have an expenses allowance but not have to declare how it was spent. If that is correct where does that put Greg Pope and all those who voted against?
I don’t think that there was an option to discontinue the expenses.
So the way this item has been presented by the media could give the wrong impression.
I also notice that the call for fewer MP’s is gaining ground in a comment letter.
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04-07-2008, 10:36
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Re: Squandered.......
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Originally Posted by jambutty
I see that my MP, Janet Anderson, wants to keep on the gravy train.
She wouldn’t have got my vote next time anyway but this makes sure.
It would appear that they voted to keep the existing expenses AND reject an independent audit.
It would be interesting to see the actual wording of the vote options. Because there is more to this than meets the eye.
As I understand it one option was to have an expenses allowance but not have to declare how it was spent. If that is correct where does that put Greg Pope and all those who voted against?
I don’t think that there was an option to discontinue the expenses.
So the way this item has been presented by the media could give the wrong impression.
I also notice that the call for fewer MP’s is gaining ground in a comment letter.
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The reason she probably voted to stay on the gravy train JB is that she won't be at the station after the next election
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05-07-2008, 11:30
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Re: Squandered.......
He didn't vote against it either. He didn't vote at all. I hope there was a good reason for him not to vote for expenses reform.
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05-07-2008, 11:52
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Re: Squandered.......
Could be the same reason many people dont vote in elections andrew, apathy, doesnt matter who we vote for, the elected party always look after themselves first and voters last, perhaps greg feels that the options were going to make no difference to the current carry on, I stronlgy suspect mp's would still be creaming it whatever the outcome was.
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05-07-2008, 12:29
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Re: Squandered.......
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Originally Posted by derekgas
Could be the same reason many people dont vote in elections andrew, apathy, doesnt matter who we vote for, the elected party always look after themselves first and voters last, perhaps greg feels that the options were going to make no difference to the current carry on, I stronlgy suspect mp's would still be creaming it whatever the outcome was.
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The Liberals are best Derek, their best representation on any body is three, one to vote for, one to vote against, and the other to abstain, sorted
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05-07-2008, 14:50
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Re: Squandered.......
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He didn't vote against it either. He didn't vote at all. I hope there was a good reason for him not to vote for expenses reform.
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Neither did Brown and his reason was that he had other pre-arranged business to attend to. Yeh! Right!
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05-07-2008, 15:19
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Re: Squandered.......
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Originally Posted by cashman
thanks fer the link margaret, interesting reading, all that voted to retain should be ashamed of themselves,but somehow i doubt they will, same as cyfr, who is playing slag the opposition again.
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Slag the opposition? I'm by NO WAY ashamed for highlighting someone being abusive at Cameron just because he voted to reform expenses because he sees there are problems with it! I thought that's what people wanted, more transparency, I certainly do. Instead we've ended up with no change at all.
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05-07-2008, 15:37
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Re: Squandered.......
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The Liberals are best Derek, their best representation on any body is three, one to vote for, one to vote against, and the other to abstain, sorted
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Quite jaysay, but isnt that pretty much what the other 2 do, one half for, one quarter against, one quarter abstention?, liberal vote the way you say to fit in with one of the other 2.
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05-07-2008, 15:40
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Re: Squandered.......
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Originally Posted by derekgas
Quite jaysay, but isnt that pretty much what the other 2 do, one half for, one quarter against, one quarter abstention?, liberal vote the way you say to fit in with one of the other 2.
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It was meant to portray what a waste of space the Liberals are Derek
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05-07-2008, 15:52
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Re: Squandered.......
I got that Jaysay, I was trying to portray what a waste of space the lot of them are. lol
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