Stop the bnp - Page 4

accyman · 15-05-2009, 19:27

the easiest way to defeat them and remove them is for current govenment to sort the imigration mess out and clamp down on it to a satisfactory level

that is assuming theres a lot of people fed up with imigrants bleeding our benefits system and NHS system dry or i may be alone in been fed up with it

Bagpuss · 15-05-2009, 19:36

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Originally Posted by accyman

i may be alone in been fed up with it

You're not alone with that thought and we all know that the mainstream parties haven't got the balls to sort it out.

MargaretR · 15-05-2009, 19:36

Before I vote for any party I like to know who is financing their campaigns
ie - who will they have alliegence to and be beholden to if they win?

James Goldsmith. Goldsmith's father Frank changed the family name from the German Goldschmidt to the English Goldsmith. The Goldschmidts, like their neighbors and relatives the Rothschilds, had been prosperous merchant bankers in Frankfurt, Germany since the 16th century. James' grandfather Adolph came to London as a multi-millionaire in 1895
James Goldsmith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Now that is bad news - who trusts any banker's motives anymore?
He is now deceased but the Rothchild connection persists

Paul Sykes (born 1943) is a British businessman, political donor, and associate of the eurosceptic populist politician Robert Kilroy-Silk.
He is a vehement opponent of the European Union and is noted for his belief that it represents a conspiracy to create an undemocratic superstate.
In October 2004, he was estimated to have donated £6 million to eurosceptic campaigns.
Paul Sykes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That news is a bit better

- a self made man with working class roots.

So on current info I will be voting UKIP

Royboy39 · 15-05-2009, 19:41

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Originally Posted by accyman

the easiest way to defeat them and remove them is for current govenment to sort the imigration mess out and clamp down on it to a satisfactory level

that is assuming theres a lot of people fed up with imigrants bleeding our benefits system and NHS system dry or i may be alone in been fed up with it

I think thats too heavy a subject to be discussed on open forum and Roy will be having kittens about the legal rights and wrongs to debate it.
I think we all have our own ideas about that but the way to tackle it is to wait what the Gods of Westminstere come up with at the next General Election, if there is enough of them left.
The Local Elections and Europe Elections will give people an indication which way the country is lead and from there if the people get a say or not.......A think the Dictator is wabbling.

Eric · 15-05-2009, 19:43

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

I think that post is well justified and hopefully the ones who may be tempted will sit up and take note.

Problem is that people have short memories, and it seems like the 30s have become "history" ... even tho' it is within living memory for many, and for many others what happened in those evil days was learned from their parents and grandparents. It is good to remember that "those who ignore history are condemned to re-live it".

Royboy39 · 15-05-2009, 19:50

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Originally Posted by Eric

Problem is that people have short memories, and it seems like the 30s have become "history" ... even tho' it is within living memory for many, and for many others what happened in those evil days was learned from their parents and grandparents. It is good to remember that "those who ignore history are condemned to re-live it".

Eric...In the UK you will have a problem if you call a German...Adolf...That is not politicaly correct.

turkishdelight · 15-05-2009, 20:01

Women voting for proper representation in Europe will ensure womens Rights are upheld and the BNPs Misogyny is not welcome. Richard Branbrook BNP member stated recently, the answer to the recession was for women to stay at home.

Royboy39 · 15-05-2009, 20:06

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Women voting for proper representation in Europe will ensure womens Rights are upheld and the BNPs Misogyny is not welcome. Richard Branbrook BNP member stated recently, the answer to the recession was for women to stay at home.

Is that not the doctrine of the Taliban in the Kyber as well?

turkishdelight · 15-05-2009, 20:12

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Originally Posted by Eric

Problem is that people have short memories, and it seems like the 30s have become "history" ... even tho' it is within living memory for many, and for many others what happened in those evil days was learned from their parents and grandparents. It is good to remember that "those who ignore history are condemned to re-live it".

Nick Griffin is one of the biggest deniers of the holocaust, describing it as a hoax of the 20th century.

Royboy39 · 15-05-2009, 20:17

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Nick Griffin is one of the biggest deniers of the holocaust, describing it as a hoax of the 20th century.

It makes you wonder if the prevention of mass human slaughter is not high on his lst of priorities?

Mancie · 15-05-2009, 20:25

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Nick Griffin is one of the biggest deniers of the holocaust, describing it as a hoax of the 20th century.

no surprise there..if voters find the BNP policy on immigration attractive, then they should also take on the real aim that comes with this party, that is a doctrine of "purifiction" of Britain...plain and simple even people who's families where born here decades ago but happen to be of dark skin will be "eliminated" from Britain by whatever means.

shakermaker · 15-05-2009, 20:44

Threads like this - that essentially use the same tactics as the targeted party - won't do any good. The content in posts from the thread starter is hollow and unconvincing.

Take a look at any BNP literature and you'll see the laughable propaganda and utter lack of facts in their persuasion. They have no reasonable ground upon which to gain votes.

Good argument from good people with good ideas will eradicate protest voting for this organisation of hate.

Mancie · 15-05-2009, 21:01

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

Threads like this - that essentially use the same tactics as the targeted party - won't do any good. The content in posts from the thread starter is hollow and unconvincing.

Take a look at any BNP literature and you'll see the laughable propaganda and utter lack of facts in their persuasion. They have no reasonable ground upon which to gain votes.

Good argument from good people with good ideas will eradicate protest voting for this organisation of hate.

I get what your saying..it all looks like propaganda against a certian party and sometimes it can backfire..but my last post was on based on comments openly made by Nick Griffin a couple of weeks ago.

turkishdelight · 15-05-2009, 21:50

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

Threads like this - that essentially use the same tactics as the targeted party - won't do any good. The content in posts from the thread starter is hollow and unconvincing.

Take a look at any BNP literature and you'll see the laughable propaganda and utter lack of facts in their persuasion. They have no reasonable ground upon which to gain votes.

Good argument from good people with good ideas will eradicate protest voting for this organisation of hate.

My comments are based on fact and this thread was only to raise an awareness of the european elections and some background regarding the BNP to enable people to make an in-formed choice. I dont feel the content in this thread is unconvincing. Regarding your statement reasonable grounds to gain votes perhaps not however they are gainning votes that is a fact., thats why people need to be informed.

andrewb · 15-05-2009, 21:58

The BNP are currently on 4% in the polls.

Tories: 28%
Labour: 22%
LibDems: 19%
UKIP: 19%
BNP: 4%

The protest party appears to be UKIP having gone up 12% this week!