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16-05-2009, 15:10
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#91
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Grand Wizard Of The Inner Clique
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Re: Stop the bnp
O.K. so people think BNP & such folk have limited intelligence, maybe the ground troop's, but the ones running it know exactly what they are aiming for, divide and conquer, get the rest of us so frustrated the best alternative would be them.
Protest as much as you want about their ideals, but don't even consider pushing them underground, whilst they are still, a 'Political' Party they have to keep the rest of us informed, better to see what they plan/hope for, than to force them off the political platform and never know what they might plan.
Extremists of every sort need to be watched by us all.
As has already been mentioned, the best way for them to succeed is for the potential voters to ignore their rights and allow these people's advocates to suddenly be in control.
Let them speak before and at every Election, we then know, what we are voting against!
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16-05-2009, 15:19
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#92
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Re: Stop the bnp
not too sure the ones running the bnp would tell exactly what they are aiming to do, as the national front developed they certainly kept things from the suckers, this lot to me are just n upmarket version.
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16-05-2009, 15:48
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#93
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Re: Stop the bnp
A couple of years old, but an interesting read none the less, and does feature Nick Ericson, he of the rape/sex quote.
'Nick is indeed a dedicated party activist. His real name, however, is Nick Eriksen. He is 47, a former civil servant, and he once served as a Tory councillor in Southwark, south London. An intense man, with bitten nails and a permanent frown, he appears forever to be on the brink of losing his temper.'
The Guardian journalist who became central London organiser for the BNP | UK news | The Guardian
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16-05-2009, 18:04
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Re: Stop the bnp
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Originally Posted by shakermaker
Threads like this - that essentially use the same tactics as the targeted party - won't do any good. The content in posts from the thread starter is hollow and unconvincing.
Take a look at any BNP literature and you'll see the laughable propaganda and utter lack of facts in their persuasion. They have no reasonable ground upon which to gain votes.
Good argument from good people with good ideas will eradicate protest voting for this organisation of hate.
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Don't think it always works this way ... there comes a point when people vote with their emotions, their frustrations, their fears, their anger etc. Often support for these parties seems to defy reason. I'll offer a Canadian example: the wackier right wingers and rascists in Canada quite often come from the rural West, a place where one finds very few visible minorities ... hell, in Saskatchewan, the only blacks are those who play football for the Roughriders.
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16-05-2009, 18:42
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Re: Stop the bnp
From the Unison site:
The BNP in your workplace
On 22 April this year NHS nurses spoke up in the Nursing Times to defend their right to be members of the BNP.
"The British National Party is not in any way, shape or form 'racist' and this terrible smear is indicative of the extremist, far-left, totalitarian ideology behind Unison and its Labour connections."
"The British National Party is a legal, registered, political party. It does not tolerate racism or hate in any form, and seeks to protect the history, culture, human rights, and future of the indigenous people of the British Isles."
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
The large number of people(who do not understand the impications of voting BNP) that you work with, must be of limited intelligence, that is all I can say.
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Didn't you once say you used to be a nurse Margaret? I'm sure all your ex-colleagues will agree with you.
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16-05-2009, 19:54
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#96
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Grand Wizard Of The Inner Clique
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Re: Stop the bnp
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Originally Posted by yerself
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Perhaps the majority would agree with her how many rotten apples does it need to taint the whole barrel?
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Last edited by Less; 16-05-2009 at 20:00.
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16-05-2009, 20:38
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Beacon of light
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Re: Stop the bnp
Yerself, you are quite right.......I was a nurse.
Since I know my ex colleagues and you do not, I stand by my original thoughts.
My ex colleagues would not support the policies of the BNP....and are quite astute at making judgements......unfortunately I do not know the people who the Nursing Times quoted, and so I cannot vouch for their skills in making judgements......besides the term 'Nurse' can be applied to unqualified carers(though legally it should only be ascribed to those who have a recognised qualification).
What was stated is correct......the BNP is a legal, registered political party....as for the rest.....well they would say that wouldn't they?
And Less, you are right about rotten apples...it takes very few to taint the whole barrel.
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16-05-2009, 20:41
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Beacon of light
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Re: Stop the bnp
That was definitely my last contribution to this thread.
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16-05-2009, 21:57
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Re: Stop the bnp
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Originally Posted by Neil
Why, do you have limited intelligence?
I know I do.
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Is this because you know all you want to or cant be bothered learning anything else????
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16-05-2009, 22:01
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Re: Stop the bnp
Wit all the warm brown smellie stuff sticking to polititions at the moment people wont vote and the percentage of the minor/outlandish parties will rise. This will be because those that vote for them will not be offset by those that could have but didnt vote. Unless the turnout increases then the results will give the impression that we are going down the extreme route.
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16-05-2009, 22:07
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Re: Stop the bnp
I got three leaflets thru the door this morning about the Euro Election, LibDem, Green and an alarming blunt BNP one, they all went straight in the recycling sack, though in the interests of fairness only after I had finished laughing at them.
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17-05-2009, 09:21
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Re: Stop the bnp
Incidentally, if anyone's thinking of voting for the BNP because of their Euroscepticism, it's worth noting that there are non-racist alternatives on both sides of the political spectrum - UKIP for right-wingers (in the Tory sense) and NO2EU for left-wingers.
Of course, if you're quite happy to have billions upon billions of our taxes squandered on an intrinsically undemocratic, hugely corrupt (and their corruption makes our Parliament's look like peanuts), criminally wasteful, remote institution in Brussels which is now intruding into more and more areas of our life, you'll carry on voting Lab/Tory/Lib-Dem...
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17-05-2009, 14:13
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Re: Stop the bnp
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
Of course, if you're quite happy to have billions upon billions of our taxes squandered on an intrinsically undemocratic, hugely corrupt (and their corruption makes our Parliament's look like peanuts), criminally wasteful, remote institution in Brussels which is now intruding into more and more areas of our life, you'll carry on voting Lab/Tory/Lib-Dem...
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Surely you mean carry on voting criminals?
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17-05-2009, 15:00
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Re: Stop the bnp
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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Surely you mean carry on voting criminals?
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UKIP's record on expenses and fraud are hardly something to gloat about.
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17-05-2009, 15:18
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Re: Stop the bnp
whatever happened to the monster raving looney party? i'd vote for those
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