supermarkets and pork products

[spinner]

Originally Posted by jedimaster

funnies thing i came accross
i!!! (did they not realise that they are pork?)

some people arent that religious thats all simple as that

[jedimaster]

Originally Posted by spinner

some people arent that religious thats all simple as that

very true but when you consider there were no other "piggy" products available it makes you wonder a little

[chav1]

Originally Posted by panther

bloodyhell they are not actually touching the stuff, its wrapped up!!
ive never seen any refuse to hold it, besides they dont bother when they serving you cheese and HAM pizza

why do they not eat it anyway?

i think the meat they use in pizas at your typical blackburn road takeaway is halal meat , god knows what the ham realy is lol

[entwisi]

Originally Posted by jedimaster

very true but when you consider there were no other "piggy" products available it makes you wonder a little

What do you mean by this jedi? The Pig is an animal that IIRC every single part is edible apart from the snout. There is a Hungarian(I'm pretty sure its Hungary) traditional festival where they use a whole pig. Even down to the blood for blood puddings(Floyd did a show about it)

[jedimaster]

Originally Posted by entwisi

What do you mean by this jedi? The Pig is an animal that IIRC every single part is edible apart from the snout. There is a Hungarian(I'm pretty sure its Hungary) traditional festival where they use a whole pig. Even down to the blood for blood puddings(Floyd did a show about it)

it was just a reply to spinners last post re my previous one

[Neil]

I believe that borrowing money with interest or charging interest is also against Islamic law, I have never been told I can't pay with a credit card that charges me interest.

Is handling a credit card the same as handling a pig?

[WillowTheWhisp]

Some people don't mind handling pork just so long as they can wash their hands properly afterwards, and I think that should count for everyone. (I mean everyone should wash their hands after handling any meat.)

There's an off-licence round the corner from us which is owned by a muslim gentleman. His name is down as having the licence to sell intoxicating liquor.

As for bank accounts and interest, when I worked in a bank we did have a few customers who didn't want to put their money into accounts which paid interest (which was possible then) but the majority didn't bother.

[entwisi]

there has been a lot of changes in banking e.g. mortgages, no interest is payaable so what happens is that the bank buys a property for teh agreed value, adds on all the interest that would be payable and then resells the house to the muslim buyer on an 'interest free' deal. The goverment had to make changes recently to the stamp duty procedure as it would normally attract the duty twice (once when the bank bought it the second when they resold it), now these deals are covered under an ammendment so that it is only charged once

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by spinner

ianto the hypocrites dont tend to be radical. panther seems to be outraged that muslim supermarket workers dont wish to handle pig products, so whats the big deal. supermarkets are so business minded its good that someones prepared to object to them in any way. by the way arent all those 'decent' white people hypocrites fro eating pigs who have been rearred in the most appalling conditions for their consumption. hypocrites

The objections by these workers has got nothing to do with the conditions the pigs are reared in or the fact that supermarkets are "business minded". Are you saying that pigs are reared in worse conditions than other meat and animal products which these workers presumably do handle? It's yet another attempt by a small minority of radicals to impose their beliefs on the general population. Fortunately, it hasn't happened over here yet and hopefully it never will!

[Neil]

Originally Posted by entwisi

the bank buys a property for teh agreed value, adds on all the interest that would be payable and then resells the house

That could be an interesting way to buy a house. Fixed payments for life. No worry about rates going up etc. I might get some quotes next time I move house.

Technically they have still payed the bank for borrowing the money though haven't they?

[entwisi]

nope because they only 'buy the house' from the bank. Its been cleared by the Muslim council of Britain as valid under Sharia law.

It would be a 'fixed for life' mortgage and if you bought at a period of low interest rates could be very interesting as to whether a Bank could/would refuse a non Muslim access to that product.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by entwisi

as to whether a Bank could/would refuse a non Muslim access to that product.

That could be an interesting court case

[Ianto.W.]

Originally Posted by chav1

i think the meat they use in pizas at your typical blackburn road takeaway is halal meat , god knows what the ham realy is lol

There was a takeaway in Blackburn prosecuted recently for using chicken as pork substitute in pizas, it was reported in the Lancashire Telegraph, the owner concerned was fined quite heavily, if you suspect what is advertised is not what it should be, then report them to trading standards but save some for evidence.

[WillowTheWhisp]

I was reading up on Sharia mortgages a little while ago - the buyer actually just pays the bank well over the odds for the property so that they can buy it from them over a period of years. The bank of course makes a profit. How else would they be able to exist and pay staff wages etc? A rose by any other name?

[WillowTheWhisp]

It remind me of the orthodox Jews who ask non Jews to switch lights on and off for them on the Sabbath so they don't have to do the 'work'.