supermarkets and pork products

steeljack · 19-03-2007, 20:34

A story making news in the US today is about muslim employees in grocery stores who are refusing to handle pork products (Bacon etc.) and making the customer scan and bag it themself .
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...onalnews-print

Anyone know if this has been a problem with shops in the UK , Tesco or ASDA for example , and how do they handle it . To my mind if you take a job you usually know what it involves, so if you object to parts of it you don't take the job . Never heard of this problem with jewish employees who also avoid pork products.

panther · 19-03-2007, 21:12

bloodyhell they are not actually touching the stuff, its wrapped up!!
ive never seen any refuse to hold it, besides they dont bother when they serving you cheese and HAM pizza

why do they not eat it anyway?

SPUGGIE J · 19-03-2007, 21:27

Never seen it yet but then I get most of my meat from the butchers. Seen em not take lottery tickets though because of their beliefs and one of the Scotland Cricket team had the sponsers name blacked out as it was a brewery and alcohol is against his religion.

panther · 19-03-2007, 21:29

I didnt know that!

Ianto.W. · 19-03-2007, 22:27

Jewish people respect the right to everyone and each to their own beliefs, if the Moslems do not want to handle products that are sensitive to their beliefs, I suggest they find alternative occupations or wear rubber gloves as all food handlers are supposed to do anyway.The Moslems in my opinion are in the main ok, it is the radical hypocrites who will willingly sell 'non' believers anything from alchohol to drugs that need addressing. How can anyone not believe in something and seek to make a living out of it.

WillowTheWhisp · 19-03-2007, 22:31

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

How can anyone not believe in something and make a living out of it.

Very good question Ianto.

Mind you although my religion forbids me drinking alcohol and I wouldn't work in a pub selling it to people I still do go to pubs to socialise and I would buy an alcoholic drink for a friend.

steeljack · 19-03-2007, 22:38

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

The Moslems in my opinion are in the main ok, it is the radical hypocrites who will willingly sell 'non' believers anything from alchohol to drugs that need addressing. How can anyone not believe in something and seek to make a living out of it.

Totally agree with you , Here in Oakland, 90% of the inner city liquor/bottle stores are owned by members of a Yemeni extended family this has caused lots of problems, sometimes including violence and arson, with the American "Black Muslim' community who are doing as much as possible to clean-up the area, both sides accusing each other of exploiting the other .

cashman · 19-03-2007, 22:40

thats a strange one indeed steeljack, never seen it happen in supermarkets here, would hope it never does. people who do that are just bringing un-necessary prejudice on all of their people,of which i think most would not want.

Ianto.W. · 19-03-2007, 22:48

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Originally Posted by cashman

thats a strange one indeed steeljack, never seen it happen in supermarkets here, would hope it never does. people who do that are just bringing un-necessary prejudice on all of their people,of which i think most would not want.

I respect your point of view cashy as always I did qualify the post by saying 'radical' Moslems. I as you have are friendly with many members of the Asian community who in the main think as I do.

spinner · 19-03-2007, 23:03

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

radical hypocrites who will willingly sell 'non' believers anything from alchohol to drugs that need addressing. .

ianto the hypocrites dont tend to be radical. panther seems to be outraged that muslim supermarket workers dont wish to handle pig products, so whats the big deal. supermarkets are so business minded its good that someones prepared to object to them in any way. by the way arent all those 'decent' white people hypocrites fro eating pigs who have been rearred in the most appalling conditions for their consumption. hypocrites

mani · 19-03-2007, 23:20

see thats the thing

i was having this debate with a friend - he was like i dont want to work in a non-islamic place and as such he was workin in asda on say the groceries isle... i replied back well there's the booze there and the non-halal meats too - aaah but i dont stack those do i? he replied

but ur wages do come from the profits of those too adn one of the reasons ppl come to asda etc is cause they can buy these thigns under one roof

even a taxi driver's wage isnt 100% kosher - as he's takin ppl to and from places where they can access drink etc so ur assisting them...

we agreed to disagree

anyway what concerns me is that if she was worried about handlin pork - y doesnt she just wear gloves - surely thats hygeinic

Ianto.W. · 19-03-2007, 23:30

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Originally Posted by spinner

ianto the hypocrites dont tend to be radical. panther seems to be outraged that muslim supermarket workers dont wish to handle pig products, so whats the big deal. supermarkets are so business minded its good that someones prepared to object to them in any way. by the way arent all those 'decent' white people hypocrites fro eating pigs who have been rearred in the most appalling conditions for their consumption. hypocrites

Point taken spinner, my mother was a Jewess my father was Church of England a wartime marriage when thinking was more about survival than religion, but growing up was difficult as Dad liked pork and Ma would not eat it, don't ask me how they worked the their way round it, but I never saw Dad with a black eye or Mum. personally I would not touch pork with a barge pole as Mum said it was unclean, to get his own back dad had control of education and the crafty man sent my sister and I to a Methodist Church, and he was a lush.

steeljack · 19-03-2007, 23:45

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Originally Posted by mani

see thats the thing

i was having this debate with a friend - he was like i dont want to work in a non-islamic place and as such he was workin in asda on say the groceries isle... i replied back well there's the booze there and the non-halal meats too - aaah but i dont stack those do i? he replied

Mani , so what your saying .......you have a friend who works at Asda and he is allowed through religious restrictions to pick and choose where he works ? and the company allows this, is that correct ...

jedimaster · 19-03-2007, 23:53

funnies thing i came accross
i was stuck in the middle of nowhere on me coach an needed a bite to eat
i noticed a newsagents advertsing hot and cold sandwiches
so i went in and it immediately struck me that it was an asian shop
ahh well i was hungy so i checked out the menu and ordered a
SAUSAGE AND EGG SANDWICH. i did notice that there was no bacon on the menu so i was expecting some strange asian sausage.........nope i got tinned hot dog sausages!!! (did they not realise that they are pork?)

spinner · 19-03-2007, 23:54

[quote=Ianto.W.;399929]as Dad liked pork and Ma would not eat it, don't ask me how they worked the their way round it,

i must admit i feel sorry for you mum theres nothing worse than looking at pork if youve been brought up in this way . do people still use the word jewess it sounds really glamourous, nice word