Support For Migrants - Page 2

Mancie · 21-06-2008, 01:46

Bernadette do you really think this Government would spend money on something that does not get a return or make a profit?.. that is the reason they don't spend it on folk who are struggling or people who can no longer make a return in productive terms.. it is a disgrace, and it will get worse.

BERNADETTE · 21-06-2008, 02:13

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Bernadette do you really think this Government would spend money on something that does not get a return or make a profit?.. that is the reason they don't spend it on folk who are struggling or people who can no longer make a return in productive terms.. it is a disgrace, and it will get worse.

I fail to see how there can possibly be a return on what is happening in this country now. People are coming here and taking what few jobs there are plus claiming benefits to send "home". They are certainly not putting very much money back into the economy out of their wages plus they are claiming top up benefit. It is disgraceful that it can be twisted to make it sound as if nobody will take the jobs on offer but folk just believe what they read in the daily papers. They really have no idea what is happening locally!!!

polly · 21-06-2008, 02:25

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yep , know that , just threw it in before mob had a go at the Kosovans and Somalis, and just ask yourselves who would clean your houses or take care of your gardens without the Filipinos and Vietnamese

Your definitely out of touch here. In Britain we tend to clean our own houses and care for our own gardens.
Is it one of the reasons we dont reach the levels of American obesity.
Those of us that do have gardeners tend to have indigenous British gardeners.Gardening is almost a religion in certain areas a visit to any British garden centre on a Sunday would prove.

Mancie · 21-06-2008, 03:10

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

I fail to see how there can possibly be a return on what is happening in this country now. People are coming here and taking what few jobs there are plus claiming benefits to send "home". They are certainly not putting very much money back into the economy out of their wages plus they are claiming top up benefit. It is disgraceful that it can be twisted to make it sound as if nobody will take the jobs on offer but folk just believe what they read in the daily papers. They really have no idea what is happening locally!!!

Ok what is happening locally?.. how do they get jobs when locals cannot or do not want the jobs?.. it's get real time!.. the ones that work do pay tax and do pay more into the economy than anyone who is pensioned or to young to work.. it's basic.

Benipete · 21-06-2008, 03:10

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Originally Posted by polly

Your definitely out of touch here. In Britain we tend to clean our own houses and care for our own gardens.
Is it one of the reasons we dont reach the levels of American obesity.
Those of us that do have gardeners tend to have indigenous British gardeners.Gardening is almost a religion in certain areas a visit to any British garden centre on a Sunday would prove.

Have a man comes round to do the gardening and mow the lawns.The granddaughter is now big enough to use the hoover after she's done the washing up and dusted.Been a bit hard since the downstairs maid ran off with the butler but I'll manage.

Mancie · 21-06-2008, 03:14

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Originally Posted by Benipete

Have a man comes round to do the gardening and mow the lawns.The granddaughter is now big enough to use the hoover after she's done the washing up and dusted.Been a bit hard since the downstairs maid ran off with the butler but I'll manage.

I get the jist.. even have to have a Polish chap come over to shoot the partridge and peashants these days.. terrible bore but what else can one do?

Benipete · 21-06-2008, 03:25

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I get the jist.. even have to have a Polish chap come over to shoot the partridge and peashants these days.. terrible bore but what else can one do?

No I just get the chauffeur to shine the lights from the Roller into the little blighters eyes, It's so now.

and so easy.

steeljack · 21-06-2008, 03:51

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Originally Posted by polly

Your definitely out of touch here. In Britain we tend to clean our own houses and care for our own gardens.
Is it one of the reasons we dont reach the levels of American obesity.
Those of us that do have gardeners tend to have indigenous British gardeners.Gardening is almost a religion in certain areas a visit to any British garden centre on a Sunday would prove.

Some people have no sense of humour , not surprised that "polly put the kettle on' has chimed in knowing her antipathy for anything bearing the "made in USA" stamp.
Doh....just to let you know , most Americans also clean their own homes and cut their own grass , but most do the gardening/weeding /hoeing and sowing either midweek or on a Saturday , Sundays we save for church going , like all good Christians . Personally I do as little shopping on Sundays as I can , I was raised a good socialist and dont believe in exploiting the workers , which you obviously do .
As for being obese ......I still have a few pairs of 32" waist jeans in the wardrobe , in the hope that one day God willing they will fit again , they are alongside the 34" and 36 " .

Benipete · 21-06-2008, 04:20

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Some people have no sense of humour , not surprised that "polly put the kettle on' has chimed in knowing her antipathy for anything bearing the "made in USA" stamp.
Doh....just to let you know , most Americans also clean their own homes and cut their own grass , but most do the gardening/weeding /hoeing and sowing either midweek or on a Saturday , Sundays we save for church going , like all good Christians . Personally I do as little shopping on Sundays as I can , I was raised a good socialist and dont believe in exploiting the workers , which you obviously do .
As for being obese ......I still have a few pairs of 32" waist jeans in the wardrobe , in the hope that one day God willing they will fit again , they are alongside the 34" and 36 " .

I knew you were joking,but can we stop coming out with big words - Antipathy - indigenous,i prefer Autochthonous but then again we all have

our own Idiosyncrocies

steeljack · 21-06-2008, 04:32

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Originally Posted by Benipete

I knew you were joking,but can we stop coming out with big words - Antipathy - indigenous,i prefer Autochthonous but then again we all have

our own Idiosyncrocies

sorry ...didn't mean to offend will revert to the local argot I wuz brung up in .....wot , sed , sez in future ,

Benipete · 21-06-2008, 04:40

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Originally Posted by steeljack

sorry ...didn't mean to offend will revert to the local argot I wuz brung up in .....wot , sed , sez in future ,

adly any word with more then four lets is lost now ound ear

steeljack · 21-06-2008, 04:50

OK all silliness aside , back to the original theme of the thread ......I understand Roy the founder/owner of Accyweb is also an expatriat foriegn worker , from previous posts I gather he is a resident in the Russian Federation , I have no personal knowledge of the guy , I don't know if he is in Russia as a temporary worker or if he has long term family/business commitments there .........would be interesting to hear your views on the subject ,.....Roy over to you ......thanks

derekgas · 21-06-2008, 05:21

I think the immigrants who work do contribute to the economy, but not in a way that many people recognise, in places like china where the average wage is low, they dont need cheap labour, here, where wages are much higher, some companies would go out of business without the cheap labour, some companies take shameless advantage of cheap labour too, companies pay big taxes, what they buy and sell is heavily taxed, so therefore keeps the economy moving, if they go out of business, it reflects on the economy, I dont agree with it, but given the situation in this country, dont see how it is going to change, in recent years, we, in the main have been changed into greedy people, and that is what has kept prices rising to obscene levels, but I still blame maggie for that.

steeljack · 21-06-2008, 06:03

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but I still blame maggie for that.

Sorry Derek , I disagree with that , the rot set in Accrington in between the Wilson and Heath Premerships , late 60s eary 70s , myself and other old wrinklies on the site can tell you about the days full employment in the town at Howard and Bulloughs , Laing Bridges, Emerson and Renwick , J T Rothwells ,Foster Yates and Thoms (Blackburn), Lucas (Burnley) English Electric (Clayton) all employing skilled labour , 15 yr old kids fought for apprenticeships at these places thinking they had a job for life ...soon to be dis-illusioned when the money men took over . I can remember the day when Rothwells closed and the then local MP Arthur Davidson (labour) came down and said how sorry he was , but it as just economics ...sucessive Govts , both Labour and Tory have never in my mind given a toss for the north west , just in my mind relying on the traditonal vote and then treating the folk like crap .......
am I bitter , yeah you bet your ass I'm bitter , but I have had to move on and create a new life for myself , but one thing , I will never in my life trust another politician , everyone wether it be local or national they are all thieving lieing swines
over to you, G Bush, G Pope, G Jones or any other elected representative who cares to answer .......

derekgas · 21-06-2008, 06:08

Yes SJ, I can see your point, but have no recollection of the companies you mention, the point being, Maggie was the start of things becoming considerably worse for my era, and consecutive politicians have done little or nothing to stem the tide, and as you say, promise, promise, promise = lies, lies, lies, oh and theft!