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21-06-2008, 06:28
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Re: Support For Migrants
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Originally Posted by steeljack
I don't know if he is in Russia as a temporary worker or if he has long term family/business commitments there
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He is in prison for trying to sell Russian Nuclear missiles to terrorists. You have to make a living some how these days.
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22-06-2008, 00:25
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Re: Support For Migrants
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Ok what is happening locally?.. how do they get jobs when locals cannot or do not want the jobs?.. it's get real time!.. the ones that work do pay tax and do pay more into the economy than anyone who is pensioned or to young to work.. it's basic.
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Think the title of the thread says what is happening locally and probably nationally as well!! Money can be found to try and integrate people who have no intention of integrating whilst there is no money for the indegenous population. As for the jobs they are taking them away by working for less than minimum wages. If you believe what you have posted about them paying into the economy then it is time you took your blinkers off. They are working for less than minimum wages but getting that topped up with benefits and not spending over here but sending most of the money HOME!!! Meanwhile the emergency services have to learn the basics of another language in case of an emergency!!!
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22-06-2008, 00:51
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Re: Support For Migrants
dont see why a bloody penny should be spent on em, they sure don't across europe n rightfully so, n before any prat says racist, ****** all to do with racism its called COMMON SENSE.
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22-06-2008, 00:55
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Re: Support For Migrants
Does anyone have the link to this story, as I can't find it?
I want to know where this money's come from.
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22-06-2008, 00:57
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Re: Support For Migrants
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dont see why a bloody penny should be spent on em, they sure don't across europe n rightfully so, n before any prat says racist, ****** all to do with racism its called COMMON SENSE.
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But unfortunately it isn't a penny but £400,000 and not a lot we can do to avoid it!! Plus all the emergency services acting as interpeters, it is getting beyond a joke.
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22-06-2008, 01:28
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Re: Support For Migrants
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Does anyone have the link to this story, as I can't find it?
I want to know where this money's come from.
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Although the story was printed in Friday's Telegraph it isn't on their website yet, probably like the Observer does, to ensure people still buy their paper first, before putting all the latest news online.
Probably be Monday now.
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22-06-2008, 08:53
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Re: Support For Migrants
Some friends of ours emigrated to France - they took French lessons and don't expect people to speak English on their account. I think you'll find Roy doesn't expect interpreters everywhere he goes in Russia either. But here in this country we provide interpreters for every immigrant group. It does seem topsy turvey. I used to praise the Polish immigrants of past generations for learning English and settling in and integrating whilst still retaining their identity and links to their origins. It was a balance. Unfortunately it's all one-sided with the latest batch of immigrants.
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22-06-2008, 09:13
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Re: Support For Migrants
Money makes the world go round! Thats why I'm in Russia and why the polish come to england. Of course they are in it to make money and send to families, why else move countries? All my money is earnt in Russia, but I pay taxes back in the UK, and spend most of it in UK as well.. I guess this makes me even worse than the polish, at least they pay taxes in our country.
The government obviously think they will earn more from investing in the immigrants than investing in locals, who can blame them. Take a look around Accrington at all the people on benefits, that have had tons invested in them allready from the government - what good do they do for any of us? And they can allready speak the lingo (some of them anyway).
Instead of looking at what is spent on the immigrants (400,000, woohoo), look at what the real expenses of the area are!
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22-06-2008, 15:16
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Re: Support For Migrants
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Some people have no sense of humour , not surprised that "polly put the kettle on' has chimed in knowing her antipathy for anything bearing the "made in USA" stamp.
Doh....just to let you know , most Americans also clean their own homes and cut their own grass , but most do the gardening/weeding /hoeing and sowing either midweek or on a Saturday , Sundays we save for church going , like all good Christians . Personally I do as little shopping on Sundays as I can , I was raised a good socialist and dont believe in exploiting the workers , which you obviously do .
As for being obese ......I still have a few pairs of 32" waist jeans in the wardrobe , in the hope that one day God willing they will fit again , they are alongside the 34" and 36 " .
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I am going to ignore the childish quote from a nursery rhyme though I feel it may say much about its author.
Personally I seen nothing 'funny' about stereotyoping and making fun of ethnic groupings, it merely reinforces their disadvantaged position in society.
As for your comment about Sunday shopping this illustrates a lack of understanding of British culture.
Sunday opening was first allowed in the midd 1990's (94 I think but can't be sure) and has prospered ever since.
Religion isn't really an issue in the country as only 10% of the UK population go to church regularly and 59% (eg the vast majority) do not go to church at all.
http://www.vexen.co.uk/UK/religion.h...urchAttendance
Clearly you have been away rather a long time we are no longer rulled by the tyranny of the church, though it is an option for those who wish to avail themselves of it.
Real socialism is about answering to yourself and society, no one and nothing else.
In my experience many of our workers, request to work Sunday, particularly those with family responsibilities like to work on Sundays as this is the only day of the week when they do not have to pay for expensive childcare.
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22-06-2008, 15:22
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Re: Support For Migrants
Why don't we have a Polish section here on the Accy Web? Let the old polaks do their posting in their own lingo, then I wll do a summary translation. Accuracy guaranteed - honest!
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22-06-2008, 22:58
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Re: Support For Migrants
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I understand Roy the founder/owner of Accyweb is also an expatriat foriegn worker
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I don't know Roy but I suspect the situation between him and the eastern europeans coming to England is that Roy had a job to go to in Russia he didn't just arrive there one day hoping to find employment. I bet he also didn't expect the Russians to look after him if he didn't find a job and he certainly wouldn't expect them to find him an interpretor if he was having trouble with the language.
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22-06-2008, 23:10
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Re: Support For Migrants
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Originally Posted by Bagpuss
I don't know Roy but I suspect the situation between him and the eastern europeans coming to England is that Roy had a job to go to in Russia he didn't just arrive there one day hoping to find employment. I bet he also didn't expect the Russians to look after him if he didn't find a job and he certainly wouldn't expect them to find him an interpretor if he was having trouble with the language.
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Same applies in Spain.....No work..no pay.
No contract of employment....go home.
Skint....tough.
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22-06-2008, 23:11
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Re: Support For Migrants
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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Why don't we have a Polish section here on the Accy Web?
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Because they don't waste their money on the internet. I thought we had decided they send it all home
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22-06-2008, 23:13
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Re: Support For Migrants
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Same applies in Spain.....No work..no pay.
No contract of employment....go home.
Skint....tough.
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just out of curiosity, I understand British expatriate residents are allowed to vote in Spanish elections , question .....are any of the election materials printed in English ? or any other language apart from Spanish
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22-06-2008, 23:16
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Re: Support For Migrants
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just out of curiosity, I understand British expatriate residents are allowed to vote in Spanish elections , question .....are any of the election materials printed in English ? or any other language apart from Spanish
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