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01-05-2009, 22:49
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Re: swine fever.
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never had one and never will no matter how many letters my doctor sends asking me to have it because .
A: everyone i know thats had the jab feels like crap for weeks afterwards
B: even if it works your only protected from the actuall flu virus its made to protect you from your still vulnerable to the other types/strains of flu
C: the ones given out in october/november wont protect you from swine flu which takes me back to point B
the way i see it is that if your gonna get flu your gonna get it and apart from living in isolation theres not much you can do to avoid it
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Your point A: I and many of my friends have had it yearly and had no discomfort whatsoever.
Your point B: You and everyone else needs protection from past flu strains as they might recur.
If you get Flu.........You will feel crap, as you call it for months afterwards....Trust Me.....and may not survive.
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01-05-2009, 22:49
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Re: swine fever.
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Originally Posted by accyman
never had one and never will no matter how many letters my doctor sends asking me to have it because .
A: everyone i know thats had the jab feels like crap for weeks afterwards
B: even if it works your only protected from the actuall flu virus its made to protect you from your still vulnerable to the other types/strains of flu
C: the ones given out in october/november wont protect you from swine flu which takes me back to point B
the way i see it is that if your gonna get flu your gonna get it and apart from living in isolation theres not much you can do to avoid it
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Well, I agree in principle with points A to C but when you have a potentially lethal condition you do try to get as much protection as possible. I can only reiterate, hygiene is the answer to the spread of most infections.
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01-05-2009, 22:54
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Re: swine fever.
Margaret's body is a temple.
A temple with a chimney on top...to let out the tobacco smoke.
Not having a go, because I agree with you on some things, but it does make me laugh, when you say what chemicals do to our bodies, and yet you like a smoke, which has countless harmful chemicals in each drag.
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01-05-2009, 22:56
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Re: swine fever.
I did not post this with my last post because I needed to search for the link
How Vaccinations Work - Th1/Th2 Immune Response
Research into Gulf War syndrome has revealed that people have different types of immune systems.
Some people react badly to vaccines, others don't. The link explains this anomaly.
But I still say that the delayed effect of vaccines is ill health from mercury toxicity
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01-05-2009, 22:59
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Re: swine fever.
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Originally Posted by garinda
Margaret's body is a temple.
A temple with a chimney on top...to let out the tobacco smoke.
Not having a go, because I agree with you on some things, but it does make me laugh, when you say what chemicals do to our bodies, and yet you like a smoke, which has countless harmful chemicals in each drag.
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I have read this after my last post and agree with you
I am an addict, but I have reduced the toxic intake of smoking by-
using pure leaf tobacco which has not got the chemical additives which manufactured ciggies have
and my consumption is now down to 15 a day (from 30) and hoping for an addiction cure eventually
Body purification takes time
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01-05-2009, 23:01
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Re: swine fever.
I do have the yearly flu jab, and have never felt unwell afterwards, or had the flu.
Though I think not having the flu is down to being a smoker myself, which kills 99% of all known germs.
I think the awaited leaflet that's about to drop on every mat in the country, is a complete waste of money, and a complete overreaction from the government, which mirrors the media's hyperventling glee at the story.
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01-05-2009, 23:05
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#127
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Re: swine fever.
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Originally Posted by garinda
I do have the yearly flu jab, and have never felt unwell afterwards, or had the flu.
Though I think not having the flu is down to being a smoker myself, which kills 99% of all known germs.
I think the awaited leaflet that's about to drop on every mat in the country, is a complete waste of money, and a complete overreaction from the government, which mirrors the media's hyperventling glee at the story.
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aint over reaction to them mate, its called "Shifting The Spotlight"
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01-05-2009, 23:10
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Re: swine fever.
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aint over reaction to them mate, its called "Shifting The Spotlight"
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...but it hasn't worked.
Most people are still more worried about the safety of their jobs, or just how sleazy politicans can get, than catching the latest flu.
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01-05-2009, 23:12
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Re: swine fever.
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aint over reaction to them mate, its called "Shifting The Spotlight"
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Now you have got me interested......From what. Ghurkas, Global Warming, Expenses, Failures, Spin?
By the way Swine Fever is a totaly different subject to what we are discussing.
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01-05-2009, 23:12
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: swine fever.
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Originally Posted by garinda
...but it hasn't worked.
Most people are still more worried about the safety of their jobs, or just how sleazy politicans can get, than catching the latest flu.
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i agree,not too sure about most though, theres enough muppets think corrie n east enders are true.
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01-05-2009, 23:14
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Re: swine fever.
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i agree,not too sure about most though, theres enough muppets think corrie n east enders are true.
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Now that could be a good thread wander into 'mind conditioning by the media'
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01-05-2009, 23:17
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Re: swine fever.
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i agree,not too sure about most though, theres enough muppets think corrie n east enders are true.
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We'll just have to wait and see what the latest information is, from the new Minster of Health.
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01-05-2009, 23:18
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Re: swine fever.
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Originally Posted by MargaretR
Now that could be a good thread wander into 'mind conditioning by the media'
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Aren't conspiracy theories spread by the media?
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01-05-2009, 23:22
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Re: swine fever.
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Aren't conspiracy theories spread by the media?
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The media that reports conspiracy theories is 'beyond government control'
That is why they get angry about the internet - they can't shut it down, but the Chinese are trying to.
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01-05-2009, 23:25
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Re: swine fever.
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The media that reports conspiracy theories is 'beyond government control'
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Unless of course that's exactly what they want you to think.
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