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27-12-2007, 20:51
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
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Sorry Gayle , but it seems to me just one more step down the road to 'big brother' where the state watches and controls everything , the idea may be noble in concept but it is just an excuse for the failure of society to take of the elderly . Akin to drugging children with Ritalin because they are rumbustious , its just sticking an elastoplast over the problem an easy way out
You answer your own argument when you say " These people, often elderly themselves, refuse to let their loved ones go into care homes and insist on looking after them themselves." thats where the younger family members have to take some responsibility and as Shillelagh says "Its hard looking after someone who has dementia and you have to make changes to everything you do and the house.
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It's not about big brother watching you, it's about an extra level of security so that the family can continue to keep caring for you. The two people that I've seen go through it have had loving and caring and supportive families - all generations helping out. Both ladies at different times went walkabout and a tag to help find them would have saved hours of panic and concern.
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27-12-2007, 21:11
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
I think you and I are the only ones who can see it from this point of view Gayle.
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27-12-2007, 21:14
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
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I think you and I are the only ones who can see it from this point of view Gayle.
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No I think the same way it is giving the family a little peace of mind IMO
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27-12-2007, 21:40
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
i think its a good idea so if they go wandering off their family can find them and not be worried that they have got lost somewhere.
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27-12-2007, 21:43
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
Well that makes 4 of us.
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27-12-2007, 22:30
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
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Well that makes 4 of us.
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Five.
I agree with you and Gayle too.
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27-12-2007, 22:36
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
I also think this is a good idea, if it gives loved ones piece of mind and helps find them quicker saving them from doing anything embarassing and also saving loved ones hours of panic and concern.
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27-12-2007, 23:42
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
well cashys just logged on, and heres another in favour, as was said it MUST be on a voluntary basis, so dont see a problem, dont call it "Big Brother" if people actually request it.
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27-12-2007, 23:51
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
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well cashys just logged on, and heres another in favour, as was said it MUST be on a voluntary basis, so dont see a problem, dont call it "Big Brother" if people actually request it.
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how can it be voluntary if the person involved is suffering from alzheimers and dementia and maybe doesn't know what day of the week it is ?
seems to me science/medicine can prevent the physical body from falling apart but can do nothing to stop/delay mental deteriation .
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27-12-2007, 23:53
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
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how can it be voluntary if the person involved is suffering from alzheimers and dementia and maybe doesn't know what day of the week it is ?
seems to me science/medicine can prevent the physical body from falling apart but can do nothing to stop/delay mental deteriation .
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thats what was said in the news report, simple as that.
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28-12-2007, 00:04
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
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how can it be voluntary if the person involved is suffering from alzheimers and dementia and maybe doesn't know what day of the week it is ?
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I wondered this myself Steeljack, however, we need to know a little more on this, don't we.
I do think that is a wonderful idea, and do not regard it as 'Big Brother', but as already stated, a peace of mind to know, that no matter how caring or vigilant you are with your loved ones, these types of illnesses take 24 hr. care, and to know that they can be found quickly if they wander away at some stage is more than reassuring.
Remember this thread by Thomas.Lee ... she was lucky, but could have easily finished up in the canal:-
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...eek-34756.html
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28-12-2007, 00:22
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
I think its quite a good idea but it depends on what the device looks like. Its hardly something that can be misused, people with alzheimers are only going to benefit from being found when they have gone out on their own and cant be found.
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28-12-2007, 22:51
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
Not sure what the count is . . . (and no it's not cause I'm losing my mind LOL), but I agree that it sounds like a good idea.
Brian
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29-12-2007, 00:19
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Re: Tagging for alzheimers and dementia sufferers
Tagging to me is a promising idea. Although the term “tagging” is somewhat off-putting. I am not a professional but do have experience on a first hand basis. I care for my partner full time, gave up work, get paid a pittance from the state ( although that’s an aside, it was my choice ) It is hard work and there have been times when I have thought I have lost her, just doing the weekly shopping trip. It’s frightening when this happens ( there’s always someone willing to prey on the vulnerable ) You just cannot be there every second of every day. She has early dementia. When the News item came on, she sat up, took notice, shook her head and said “that’s not fair” I will leave it at that, things may change who knows.
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