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30-06-2011, 08:53
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
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Originally Posted by wallop79
No its not a wind up, I was giving you all an example, I am just 1 in hundreds of thousands that this would affect, a majority of my collegues would be affected a lot worse than I am. So yes damn right im doing this for my workmates, those in the union & those that aren't, as well as myself and im def in it for the long haul.
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Whilst the strikers have my 100% support, why on earth would you or anyone think its a fairer option fer new starters to bear the changes/costs etc, imho thats a very poor example.
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30-06-2011, 09:08
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
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Whilst the strikers have my 100% support, why on earth would you or anyone think its a fairer option fer new starters to bear the changes/costs etc, imho thats a very poor example.
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My thoughts exactly Changes need to be made but stick It up the newbies.
Or the working class can kiss my ass I've got the foremans job at last.
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30-06-2011, 09:30
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
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My thoughts exactly Changes need to be made but stick It up the newbies.
Or the working class can kiss my ass I've got the foremans job at last.
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Is that from the second or third verse of the Red Flag Beni
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30-06-2011, 09:36
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
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Is that from the second or third verse of the Red Flag Beni
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It's from Beni's book on Human Psychology,sub titled I'm Alright Jack.
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30-06-2011, 09:43
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
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Um was just asking
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30-06-2011, 10:38
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
It's being discussed on the Jeremy Vine show. BBC radio 2 12-00 mid day.
Should be fun.
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30-06-2011, 11:32
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
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My thoughts exactly Changes need to be made but stick It up the newbies.
Or the working class can kiss my ass I've got the foremans job at last.
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This is no different than what a lot of companies have already done closing the doors to new starters to company pension schemes, which is not what I want, just that changes be made that dont affect the thousands of people that have already paid into the schemes for years
Last edited by Neil; 30-06-2011 at 15:08.
Reason: fix quote
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30-06-2011, 11:57
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
I have every sympathy for this strike. Being a public sector worker myself, I am thoroughly brassed off with the government constantly moving the pensions goalposts. I have paid into my NHS pension for 24 years. The vast majority of NHS workers have very small pensions, they are domestics, porters, catering staff, health care assistants, nurses and midwives. The people getting big pensions are few and far between.
What ticks me off the most is now being told that we are working longer. I believe the police, fire and armed forces will still be able to retire early but not nurses and midwives!!!!!
I would love to ask all of our MPs one question..
If you are hospitalised and are a patient on one of our massive wards, in one of these new super hospitals that are springing up everywhere and you have a cardiac arrest......... Who would you want to run for the Defibrillator??
A 25 year old nurse or a 65 year old nurse????
It's a no brainer.
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30-06-2011, 13:02
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
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This is no different than what a lot of companies have already done closing the doors to new starters to company pension schemes, which is not what I want, just that changes be made that dont affect the thousands of people that have already paid into the schemes for years
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that wallop is backpedaling, yeh did say its a fairer system.which implied thats what yer prefer.
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30-06-2011, 13:49
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
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If you are hospitalised and are a patient on one of our massive wards, in one of these new super hospitals that are springing up everywhere and you have a cardiac arrest......... Who would you want to run for the Defibrillator??
A 25 year old nurse or a 65 year old nurse????
It's a no brainer.
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I'd have the 21 year old blondie and tell her to forget about running for the defibrillator but to get herself straddled over the hospital trolley and start giving me some serious chest message.
That's the no brainer!
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30-06-2011, 18:22
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
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It is quite amusing, Millie Tant and comrades, supporting the poor and downtrodden. Many of whom are on more than a fifty grand a year, plus their golden handcuffed pensions.
I wonder how much support there'll be tomorrow from those in the private sector?
Especially if they haven't had a pay increase for three years, and have only the state pension to look forward to.
'Up the workers.'?
'We're the ones being truly shafted.'?
Guess we'll just have to wait until tomorrow, to see what they think.
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if thats what you think you are way way off the mark at least 70% of civil servants are on half of that and are paid less than people who do the same work in private firms your having a laugh you have just proved you havent got a clue what your talkin about and took in all the tory propoganda
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30-06-2011, 18:32
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30-06-2011, 18:55
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
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30-06-2011, 18:57
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Re: Teachers' & other public servants' strike
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if thats what you think you are way way off the mark at least 70% of civil servants are on half of that and are paid less than people who do the same work in private firms your having a laugh you have just proved you havent got a clue what your talkin about and took in all the tory propoganda
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I was asking a rhetorical question. Referring to how much support there'd be for today's strike, from workers in the private sector.
I never said it's what I think.
Besides, if you read it again, perhaps putting your finger under each word as you read aloud, you'll see I didn't give figures, but said 'many of whom are on more than fifty grand a year'.
Which is the case.
I know many in the teaching profession who earn that, and more.
Do try and read things more carefully.
There are 'many' other people more likely to catch me out, before you ever do.
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30-06-2011, 20:41
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