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23-08-2006, 22:02
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
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Different schools have different rules they must comply.
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Can I remind everyone that earlier this year, when a Muslim girl was refused to wear her head scarf in college/school whatever it was. She took the school to court for months and months, costing the National Tax payer costs of over £30.000!
Silly girl. Im glad she lost the case.
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23-08-2006, 22:07
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
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No. Id of got suspended from my house aswel probably lol
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At least 10/10 for admitting that MB . :e30: stick that on yer' chart.. tee hee.
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23-08-2006, 22:22
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
Are the teachers abiding by this or is it a different set of rules for them?
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23-08-2006, 23:35
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
Is anything consistent in this country? why do we hear ' we don't get involved in uniforms, thats up to the school. Rubbish, if they had consistent rules throughout, saying that just because something is religious it doesn't mean it overides a ban on what it is, then everyone would know where they stand. I don't see why a necklace shouldn't be visible though
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24-08-2006, 00:14
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
"It is not my decision, it is the policy," he said. "Necklaces should not be visible."
Mr Moore said the policy was supported by the majority of parents.
when i was at school you couldnt wear any jewellary apart from stud earings,didnt stop us tho they sometimes got taken off us till the end of the day,but i think that its wrong to suspend pupils for wearing jewellary it has nothing to do with education,being suspended for that is a bit harsh
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24-08-2006, 14:27
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
The title of this thread is misleading. A teenager wasn’t banned from wearing a crucifix. She was banned from wearing a necklace. There is a wealth of difference.
I can only go along with the majority view that rules is rules is rules and if they are broken then the perpetrator should be punished. Whether the rules are good or bad is another issue entirely.
Jamie Derman was told not to wear the necklace or risk suspension if she did. It isn’t clear if she flouted the rules thereafter or if she was suspended though.
This point has already been stated but I will just reinforce the opinion that this storm in a teacup is media generated to sell newspapers.
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25-08-2006, 11:13
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
don,t honestly see what the problem is wearing jewellry can be dangerous in a school enviroment,so they have strict rules about the wearing of it. the only problem here is once again caused by the media.
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26-08-2006, 10:43
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
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don,t honestly see what the problem is wearing jewellry can be dangerous in a school enviroment,so they have strict rules about the wearing of it. the only problem here is once again caused by the media.
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Certainly is dangerous Cashman ... a certain daughter of mine had her ears pierced during the school holidays and was advised to keep the studs in for 6 weeks. Was misinformed by her that the school allowed this, only to be ripped out by the Assistant Headmistress, and ear-lobes left in a pretty nasty state. Before you ask, no, didn't complain, daughter got what she deserved.
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28-08-2006, 19:23
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
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Originally Posted by katex
be ripped out by the Assistant Headmistress, and ear-lobes left in a pretty nasty state.
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That would be the end of her career and an assult charge if it happened to one of my children.
All it needed was an instruction to take them out or exclude her until she did, not causing her physical harm.
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28-08-2006, 20:27
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
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That would be the end of her career and an assult charge if it happened to one of my children.
All it needed was an instruction to take them out or exclude her until she did, not causing her physical harm.
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Well, 'sort of' understand where you coming from Neil, but this was at least 28 years ago, and I know my daughter as being a little more than stroppy at times, and the teacher, although very strict, knew her job, so sometimes there are mitigating circumstances. Always grey areas in these type of incidents and not always just an immediate claim culture attitude.
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28-08-2006, 20:37
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
I remember a teacher slapping a lad round the back of his head during an exam for talking or something. The boy wet himself ( all over the floor ) . The teacher almost did too when the boy told him he had a metal plate in his head and was not supposed to bang it and worked out of the exam. The teacher ran off after him leaving us in the exam on our own
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28-08-2006, 20:57
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
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I remember a teacher slapping a lad round the back of his head during an exam for talking or something. The boy wet himself ( all over the floor ) . The teacher almost did too when the boy told him he had a metal plate in his head and was not supposed to bang it and worked out of the exam. The teacher ran off after him leaving us in the exam on our own
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Did ya' pass ?
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29-08-2006, 20:53
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
[QUOTE]YES MUSLIMS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO WEAR HEAD SCARVES AND ROBES ALL THE **** TIME. RARGH.. QUOTE]
maybe because jewellery is dangerous in that environment and a headscarf isn't.
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29-08-2006, 21:22
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
[QUOTE=kash]
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YES MUSLIMS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO WEAR HEAD SCARVES AND ROBES ALL THE **** TIME. RARGH.. QUOTE]
maybe because jewellery is dangerous in that environment and a headscarf isn't.
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This about rules Kash, and sticking to them .. the danger just an addition.
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29-08-2006, 21:27
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Re: Teenager banned from wearing a crucifix
Why if people are determined to have their crucifix with them when at school cant it be kept in a pocket or purse??
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