Thatcher to get State funeral - Page 7

jambutty · 15-07-2008, 10:30

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Originally Posted by katex

I liked Maggie .. could understand what she had to say put in a straightforward manner. What Prime Minister would not have gone in to defend the Falklands .. proud we did that for our people out there, even though caused some loss of life, to me was a just cause, unlike where are troops are being sent now.

As for a state funeral, not sure really .. maybe not, would set some sort of prerogative. Wouldn't vote on this poll anyway .. don't like the way the questions are put. Which Prime Minister does not divide a country anyway ?

I couldn’t see Blair or Brown doing what Maggie did. In any case they would have had to get permission from the states first.

Maggie does have one thing going for her though. She left Ted Heath with egg on his face but I guess he got the last laugh when she was dumped.

jambutty · 15-07-2008, 10:34

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Originally Posted by Neil

I don't care where the ship was we were at war with them. I still think we should have been bombing military bases in Argentina. Might have well made use of those Polaris missiles before we ditched them.

No point in having a nuclear deterant in someone comes along and still attacks soveriegn soil.

All I can say is that I am glad that someone with your attitude was not PM at that time.

Fortunately we couldn’t have launched a nuke even if we wanted to. The Americans wouldn’t have allowed it.

jambutty · 15-07-2008, 10:47

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Originally Posted by Neil

From the link from you posted

I never stated that the Belgrano was heading for home, just leaving the exclusion zone.

Of course officials, ministers and Captain Bonzo would say that he was manoeuvring to launch an attack but there is no independent evidence to support this.

If the navy personnel were trained as well as the army then I wouldn’t blame him for turning tail.

shakermaker · 15-07-2008, 10:59

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Not very well IMO

It's just my opinion. I'm not going to perfume my words for the sake of anyone really. If you don't like my opinions then don't read them in future, it won't mither me.

West Ender · 15-07-2008, 15:41

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Originally Posted by jambutty

Was it compulsory to drink milk at school?

Veering wildly from the thread, although with a hint of adherance via the "school milk snatcher" vein, it was compulsory at my school. I only liked milk icy cold but my poor, misguided teachers thought it was kind to put the crates of milk next to the radiators on cold days.

The memory of it still makes me nauseous. Bleeeaaaaaaaagh!

Eric · 15-07-2008, 17:51

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Originally Posted by West Ender

Veering wildly from the thread, although with a hint of adherance via the "school milk snatcher" vein, it was compulsory at my school. I only liked milk icy cold but my poor, misguided teachers thought it was kind to put the crates of milk next to the radiators on cold days.

The memory of it still makes me nauseous. Bleeeaaaaaaaagh!

I used to get stuck with one that the sparrows had been at .... half the bloody cream gone

den the menace · 15-07-2008, 18:02

maggie? state funeral? never,
i can just remember churchills in 1965, now HE DID deserve one. the only thing i can say about mags is we all new where we stood with her, whereas blair was hard to judge, i think he would have felt more at home in the tory party. i doubt if there are more than a couple of dozen socialists in the commons right now.
the labour party was hijacked by men in suits, you only have to look at our MP, hes a joke. never had a proper job in his life and if i were him id be getting worried cos i can see him losing his seat.
just think, YOU could be stood behind him in the job centre, now that would be fun.
over to you Greg

derekgas · 15-07-2008, 18:08

State funeral? Errrm, no, stick her in a bin bag and sling her in the thames! Being as that wasnt an option, burn the witch! What she did to the miners etc was despicable, they (scargill in particular) needed bringing down a peg, but not ruining completely, made homeless and jobless, and beaten by the police into the bargain, and I aint even going to start on the sell everything policies.

cashman · 15-07-2008, 18:13

well said derekgas, though many who lived through the strike, where either too dumb,or too selfish to even know or care.

and the cheeky git asks fer respect fer the cow.

Eric · 15-07-2008, 18:40

Is she dead yet?

polly · 15-07-2008, 18:44

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Originally Posted by den the menace

maggie? state funeral? never,
i can just remember churchills in 1965, now HE DID deserve one. the only thing i can say about mags is we all new where we stood with her, whereas blair was hard to judge, i think he would have felt more at home in the tory party. i doubt if there are more than a couple of dozen socialists in the commons right now.
the labour party was hijacked by men in suits, you only have to look at our MP, hes a joke. never had a proper job in his life and if i were him id be getting worried cos i can see him losing his seat.
just think, YOU could be stood behind him in the job centre, now that would be fun.
over to you Greg

Name them! I am intrigued to know who these 'couple of dozen socialists are'

andrewb · 15-07-2008, 18:51

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Originally Posted by cashman

well said derekgas, though many who lived through the strike, where either too dumb,or too selfish to even know or care.

and the cheeky git asks fer respect fer the cow.

You can't blame the citizens for wanting power for their children and family, power to work and earn a living. I think people would prefer to pay less for said power when it was available too, so they could have more money to spend on food, or have additional heating during the winter periods.

The miners themselves didn't want to strike, they wanted to earn a living, its a shame Scargill forced one trying to hold our sovereign country to ransom, or things probably would have ended differently.

Tealeaf · 15-07-2008, 19:10

On what basis does Thatcher get a state funeral? Is it because she was the first woman Prime Minister? Or because she reversed the economic fortunes of the UK? Or because she was a successful war leader? If it is the latter then it sets an unfortunate precedent. What happens when Tony Blair goes? Does he get 3 state funerals - one each for Kosovo, Bosnia and Sierra Leone then a kick up the arse for Iraq followed by mummification until we find out what the result in Afganistan will be?

Eric · 15-07-2008, 19:56

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Originally Posted by polly

Name them! I am intrigued to know who these 'couple of dozen socialists are'

I would be intrigued to know if there is any working class left in England .... and if it has shrunk, as I suspect it has, where does (or from reading the English papers and reading thro some of the debates on Accyweb "did" might be better than "does") Labour's support come from? Over here the NDP (our version of Labour) is strongly supported by the unions in terms of cash and troops on the ground. It surprises me that, in England, a middle of the road party has not taken the center with policies that reflect the new realities ... a party that mixes a degree of fiscal responsibility with a commitment to social programs. I realize it is difficult to form and promote a new party, but surely it would be better than either Labour or the Tories.

cashman · 15-07-2008, 20:07

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Originally Posted by andrewb

You can't blame the citizens for wanting power for their children and family, power to work and earn a living. I think people would prefer to pay less for said power when it was available too, so they could have more money to spend on food, or have additional heating during the winter periods.

The miners themselves didn't want to strike, they wanted to earn a living, its a shame Scargill forced one trying to hold our sovereign country to ransom, or things probably would have ended differently.

that just goes to prove how little you know, you make me puke.