Thatchers eighties are back - London Riots

[Margaret Pilkington]

Must've been something you ate.

[Eric]

There's something I would like to run by you guys. A commentator on CBC radio said that the kind of riots that are taking place in the UK could never take place in Canada because we don't have a class system. I don't think that we do have a class system, or not much of one. But the other part got me thinking ... amazing, eh Is the class system still an issue in the UK? Do any of you think it may have something to do with the riots?

I'm not trying to agitate the fecal matter, I'm really interested in your ideas. Or comments, however blunt

Oh, and we do have riots, usually assosciated with hockey

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Eric

There's something I would like to run by you guys. A commentator on CBC radio said that the kind of riots that are taking place in the UK could never take place in Canada because we don't have a class system. I don't think that we do have a class system, or not much of one. But the other part got me thinking ... amazing, eh Is the class system still an issue in the UK? Do any of you think it may have something to do with the riots?

I'm not trying to agitate the fecal matter, I'm really interested in your ideas. Or comments, however blunt

Oh, and we do have riots, usually assosciated with hockey

I'd say this has gone way beyond any class system in this country..we have people from all sorts of our society and on this forum that openly say they would shoot thier own children no matter what the offence..these self proclaimed protectors of the peace and the ones who uphold British values are the same people who seem to have gone missing in the 80's and 90's...all of a sudden there are masses of them!.. there's no class system spoken of here .. well not until the kak hit's the fan ..

[Margaret Pilkington]

I don't think anyone said they would shoot their own children......unless of course you are trying to tenously link the poll that says shoot looters....and the one which asks if you would report your own children for crimes they had committed.......which is a bit of a swizz. You are putting words in the mouths of Accyweb members that they didn't actually say...and there is a difference as you well know. You are doing a Cmon, when you do this.
Sensationalising something just to get a response.....a Red Top Rag ploy......unworthy.
I thought you had changed. Silly me!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Eric

There's something I would like to run by you guys. A commentator on CBC radio said that the kind of riots that are taking place in the UK could never take place in Canada because we don't have a class system. I don't think that we do have a class system, or not much of one. But the other part got me thinking ... amazing, eh Is the class system still an issue in the UK? Do any of you think it may have something to do with the riots?

I'm not trying to agitate the fecal matter, I'm really interested in your ideas. Or comments, however blunt

Oh, and we do have riots, usually assosciated with hockey

I think it's more to do with class than race.

Not in the traditional working, middle, upper groupings

We now have a percentage of people, across those traditional groups, who see things very differently.

There are those 'that have'.

There are those 'that want', and expect they should have, regardless as to how they get what they want....because they deserve it.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Mancie

I'd say this has gone way beyond any class system in this country..we have people from all sorts of our society and on this forum that openly say they would shoot thier own children no matter what the offence..these self proclaimed protectors of the peace and the ones who uphold British values are the same people who seem to have gone missing in the 80's and 90's...all of a sudden there are masses of them!.. there's no class system spoken of here .. well not until the kak hit's the fan ..

Never considered killing my own kids; some of my daughter's boyfriends however ....

[Eric]

Originally Posted by garinda

I think it's more to do with class than race.

Not in the traditional working, middle, upper groupings

We now have a percentage of people, across those traditional groups, who see things very differently.

There are those 'that have'.

There are those 'that want', and expect they should have, regardless as to how they get what they want....because they deserve it.

So it's become a class system based more on money and less on birth And the Eton/Oxbridge connection is no longer as important as it was? I always liked what Edward lV used to say after winning a battle: "Kill the gentles; spare the commons".

[cashman]

It does seem that way to me Eric,n abscense of respect n discipline fer whatever reason has led to "I Want" "Im Having Regardless"they can trot out all the excuses to justify, just bull, many have been unemployed n on there arses, but never resorted to looting n arson.

[Neil]

Greater Manchester Police have a flickr page of people wanted for rioting and have a free phone number to call, click the link below to have a look

Flickr: GMP-Wanted: *HOTLINE NUMBER 0800 092 0410*'s Photostream

They were also keeping updated on fact and rumour during the trouble using twitter, here is a link to them http://twitter.com/#!/gmpolice

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Eric

So it's become a class system based more on money and less on birth And the Eton/Oxbridge connection is no longer as important as it was? I always liked what Edward lV used to say after winning a battle: "Kill the gentles; spare the commons".

There is class system because the gentry can get away with doing what commoners get prison for
The irony of David Cameron's riot condemnation - War Room - Salon.com

[Less]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

There is class system because the gentry can get away with doing what commoners get prison for
The irony of David Cameron's riot condemnation - War Room - Salon.com

You must be part of the gentry, you bull as bad as they do!

[cashman]

Whist the elite pay fer there stupidity re the bullingdon club, i doubt very much if any commoner who did the same would be sent to jail, jeez some aint even being sent fer this mayhem, yeh sure yeh aint working fer Murdoch Margaret?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Eric

So it's become a class system based more on money and less on birth And the Eton/Oxbridge connection is no longer as important as it was? I always liked what Edward lV used to say after winning a battle: "Kill the gentles; spare the commons".

We see plenty of upper and middle class rioters on our streets, at our annual scum fest, the May Day protest.

Doing whatever you selfishly want, regardless of others, knows no traditional class barriers.

Britain's collective psyche has sadly changed forever.

Self only, and sod the rest.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

It does seem that way to me Eric,n abscense of respect n discipline fer whatever reason has led to "I Want" "Im Having Regardless"they can trot out all the excuses to justify, just bull, many have been unemployed n on there arses, but never resorted to looting n arson.

Spot on cashy

[shillelagh]

the first eviction notification as gone out in wandsworth ....

BBC News - Council eviction notice for Clapham Junction riot accused's family

now its up to county court to decide ...