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15-04-2005, 17:16
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Re: The Common Sense Party
Sorry Tealeaf - I shall have to teach my pot to be more politically insane, er correct, in future!
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15-04-2005, 17:18
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Re: The Common Sense Party
You could use the same expression as my mother-in-law. " The pot calling the kettle sooty a**e."
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15-04-2005, 18:08
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Re: The Common Sense Party
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In theabsence of any political party showing any CS what policies would you like to see. Please try and keep it sensible. I'll start off.
A block on immigration for 5 years to get a handle on those who are already here and to decide a sensible level of immigration, Let the rest of Europe look after their share. Any illegals are deported immediately back to their country of origin.
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Scotland and Wales need migration as their populations are falling as people move to the 'heart of europe' [Rhine-Benelux-Paris/London]. Its having an impact on rural as well as urban communities who are having to manage decline.
Here in the North West we are importing all sorts of profesionals due to our dopey leaders of past. In Hyndburn dentists from Poland are arriving so we can have dentists for 'those that have to work for a living'. If your suggesting that we all have rotten teeth so you get to keep 'your' immigrants out then you wouldn't get my vote.[I often suspect what is really meant is Asians rather than immigrants]
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Removal of all the levels of middle management from the NHS that have been introduced in the last 20 years. Lets get back to giving teh people on the ground the power to make things right there and then. The money saved should go towards giving a decent salary to nurses and doctors.
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The NHS has the biggest bureacracy in Europe if you count anyone who ever uses a pen once during the day. Our Health Authority here in Hyndburn spends 3.5% on management, in line with the NHS average. On the continent it is much higher because they health care, whilst subsidised, is run by the more expensive private sector. This problem is exacerbated in the US and is the reason why US citizens spend 14% of GDP on healthcare as opposed to 8-10% in europe. Britain needs to keep accelerating public expenditure in Health Care for the next few years to get to 8% of GDp from the 4% it was for many years. It was a miracle Health Care was provided at such levels.
Take MRSA. In the early 90's when weaker strains began to profilerate it was jumped on in Europe and is largely absent now. However an underfunded NHS with contracted out cleaners resulted in poor cleanliness and little will/effort to control infections. No records were ever kept until around 2000 at which point there was at least the will to recognise and do something about.
The NHS will never correct 20 years of decline in 6 years. Like doctor and dentist training [7 years]. You have to work out that snap judgements and daft political rhetoric lead to foolish policy.
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15-04-2005, 18:47
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Re: The Common Sense Party
when people say imigrants i dont think they mean just asians
i think they are more concerned about people getting into the country who only want to get here to bleed our economy dry or kill us with chemicals
we get a great deal of imigrants from poland who are dentists , doctors and nurses which we actualy need and those people who want to work have our blessing to come here
what people are gainst are people coming here because they are poor in their country and can live 10x better life styles here simpy by claiming benefits and see no need to earn a living because although been on benifits isnt the best place to be financialy for us its a hell of a lot better than what they are used to in their own countries
the most sickening thing is that these scroungers once set up with a home and benifits send for their familys who also scrounge off our economy
racist remarks or pure fact its up to you how you see them but to put it simply its happening and its happening too much
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15-04-2005, 19:08
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Re: The Common Sense Party
Let me just say a few words on the immigrant workforce.I have had a Polish gent working for me as a security guard.He speaks "a leetle" English,he has taken a year out of his studies in Poland to come back and work here again because in the 3 months he was with us last year he earned enough to pay for his next year's tutoring and bought a BMW! I know that most of the workforce in the Evesham area is East European because no one else will accept that kind of money for picking fruit/veg. Having said that,our lovely Polish guard is the best we have ever had;and that includes English speaking ,trained and experienced guards![with the exception of one]
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15-04-2005, 20:37
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Re: The Common Sense Party
no problem at all with people who come here to work as we desperatly need doctors , dentists and other things
one thing we dont need is more scroungers we have enough of them already
it wont be long before we are relying on imigrants to be teachers as well because in a lot of schools that job is so bad people dont want to be teachers either anymore
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16-04-2005, 08:21
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Re: The Common Sense Party
he he i have just sent a link of this topic to Mr Tony Blair
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16-04-2005, 10:46
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Re: The Common Sense Party
I would like to see heavy fines for littering. The law is already in place to enable this but it is not enforced. I would also like this to be extended to spitting in the street and public urination which also seems to be ignored.
A ban on TV and radio advertising of all these so-called legal companies who ambulance chase clients.
Bringing back corporal punishment in schools and for petty crimes. I think I would be a regular at the local floggings...
The minimum age for learning to drive and owning a car to be increased, or a ban on anyone under the age of 25 from owning a car above 1200cc. All drivers to have a mandatory update and assessment of their driving skills every 5 years. I don't mean for this to be a driving test merely an assessment and update of highway code, general driving skills and courtesy on the roads.
All persons living in this country for 5 years or less to pay for medical treatment (including emergency and maternity) upfront. All persons requesting non-essential surgery to pay for the treatment eg, ritual circumcisions, reversal of sterilisations.
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16-04-2005, 12:17
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Re: The Common Sense Party
Stand in the next elections Lettie I will vote for you.x
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16-04-2005, 14:24
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Re: The Common Sense Party
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he he i have just sent a link of this topic to Mr Tony Blair
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Why don't you send it to Greg Pope and James Mawdsley and the other bods who are trying to get elected around here - see what they all say?
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16-04-2005, 15:06
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Re: The Common Sense Party
i dont have there e-mail address
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16-04-2005, 15:09
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Re: The Common Sense Party
Didn't we have Greg Pope's at one time? I'm sure somebody on here knows it.
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16-04-2005, 15:18
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Re: The Common Sense Party
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16-04-2005, 15:45
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Re: The Common Sense Party
The conservative candidate:
[email protected]
Liberal-Democrats:
http://www.libdems.org.uk/party/peop...nyourarea.html
Sadly, I cannot find any other address for Greg Pope than the one Cashman has already posted. His personal website is not working. Perhaps he feels that the election is already in the bag and so he needn't try too hard to canvass our votes.
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16-04-2005, 15:48
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Re: The Common Sense Party
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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
Sadly, I cannot find any other address for Greg Pope than the one Cashman has already posted. His personal website is not working. Perhaps he feels that the election is already in the bag and so he needn't try too hard to canvass our votes.
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His website isn't working because it's government funded and in the run up to the election that's not fair practice to have one of the candidates promotional tools funded by public money.
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