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28-12-2011, 15:52
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The Demon Drink
Nanny State has decided that all you lager louts and binge drinkers out there are risking your health and causing a bit of a nuisance.
So Nanny and her helpers are going to do something about it.
David Cameron plans minimum alcohol price in England - Telegraph
How many of us think that increasing the unit cost of alcohol, to 40p per unit, is going to solve the problem of too much booze, too freely available to people with who do not know the meaning of the word 'Moderation'?
And if you think a minimum price for alcohol is the way to go, is 40p per unit too little or too much?
If you don't agree with Nanny's proposals, how would you solve the problem of too many, drinking too much, too often?
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28-12-2011, 16:12
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Re: The Demon Drink
Nanny and his little helpers were well known for knocking back the pints and more at the Union bar and the Turf Tavern in their yoof.
Undoubtedly they can therefore empathise with today's "hoodie" binge drinkers, being well-versed in the after-effects of a little over-indulgence themselves.
It is a great kindness on their part to want to save young people the odd "morning after the night before" headache.
The problem is that increasing the price of alcohol will make no difference, except for a certain amount of grumbling about having to spend more for a good night out. People have always enjoyed drinking and always will -some will go to excess and learn their limits, some will end up in A&E and cost the tax-payer money, others, unfortunately will get hooked and become alcoholics.
Perhaps the governent could introduce the study of Temperance from a young age in the school Curriculum. Like any form of self-denial a few will enjoy it but looking at the record of sex-education in schools in the UK, with respect to teenage pregnancy, abstinence is not easily accepted as an option.
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Last edited by mobertol; 28-12-2011 at 16:13.
Reason: Capital letters
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28-12-2011, 16:16
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Re: The Demon Drink
This is a complete con job, all he is doing is increasing tax revenue, NOT helping health as he claims, the increase wont make a jot of difference to those who slug away until oblivion, anyone who reckons owt else is denser than n Amazon Rain Forest.
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28-12-2011, 16:29
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Re: The Demon Drink
Can somebody tell me what 'one unit' is in real money ? Pint, half pint, small bottle of meths ?
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28-12-2011, 16:37
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Re: The Demon Drink
It is half a pint of beer or a glass of wine -I think?
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28-12-2011, 16:50
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Re: The Demon Drink
it will not make one iota of difference.
The way to stop the kind of drinking that affects health is to take alcohol sales away from supermakets and put it back on off licences.........put pub hours back to what they were........having them open all hours is not good for the pubs......pubs are closing at an alarming rate because half of the time the pubs are empty.
This is just a way of increasing taxes...and there is nothing to say that what is raised will be spentimproving the NHS...The road fund licenece doesn't seem to be spent on the roads......petrol duty isn't spent on improving transport links.
A crock of doo-doo...that is what this proposal is....and before anyone says anything.........I rarely drink alcohol(one small glass of wine so far, over the festive period).
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28-12-2011, 16:57
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Re: The Demon Drink
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
A crock of doo-doo...
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I say! Steady on there, old girl.
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28-12-2011, 16:59
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Re: The Demon Drink
I wonder - before this starts to become a thread against those who like a drink -how many can remember the last time they over-indulged? Or will admit to it
I can honestly say that i was definitely "Squiffy" on Xmas Eve -watched a lovely Bernardo Bertolucci film which i hadn't seen in ages (The Last Emperor) and was on the edge of becoming Maudlin because of the music (by Sakamoto).
Luckily my Giddy tendency took over and a good nights sleep left me no side effects. Mind you i did only drink wine and am careful to drink one glass of water for every one of wine!
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28-12-2011, 17:07
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Re: The Demon Drink
I think you need to be a little more precise. Overindulgence can have different meanings for different people.
For example, for me, it means not being able to stand up, structure a coherent sentence or find my way home - in short a good night out. I had one on Christmas Eve. And again on Boxing Day.
I should also add it means not being able to remember a good deal of what I was talking about, or to whom I was saying it and feeling horribly guilty the morning after.
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28-12-2011, 17:07
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Re: The Demon Drink
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It is half a pint of beer or a glass of wine -I think?
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That's what the doctors tell us, but a half pint of Kaliber is zero alcohol, and Tennents Special Strength can be over 10% alcohol.
And wine is different strengths, too.
hic!
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28-12-2011, 17:09
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Re: The Demon Drink
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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
It is half a pint of beer or a glass of wine -I think?
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Trouble is they keep making glasses of wine bigger in pubs. Used to be 120ml, then 150, 175, even 200 - there is no standard. And wine isgetting stronger.
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28-12-2011, 17:12
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Re: The Demon Drink
So is Lager Susie. up from 3% in the seventies to 5% or 6% today. The problem is not the drinker or the Supermarket, it is the breweries.
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28-12-2011, 17:24
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Re: The Demon Drink
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It is half a pint of beer or a glass of wine -I think?
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So he thinks he is putting a pint up to 80p, wonder when was the last time he bought a round
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28-12-2011, 17:27
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Re: The Demon Drink
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I think you need to be a little more precise. Overindulgence can have different meanings for different people.
For example, for me, it means not being able to stand up, structure a coherent sentence or find my way home - in short a good night out. I had one on Christmas Eve. And again on Boxing Day.
I should also add it means not being able to remember a good deal of what I was talking about, or to whom I was saying it and feeling horribly guilty the morning after.
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Mine was a good night in then - I did have a few paracetamols on Xmas day and had to check what I'd written on here in case I'd disgraced myself in any way -luckily I hadn't. (OK so I lied).
Just sent a friend who i'd been thinking about a link to the Sakamoto music with the title "too beautiful for words" think I meant the friend and not the music!
You are good at getting people to confess, aren't you?!
Perhaps you should have tried the Priesthood...
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28-12-2011, 17:33
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Re: The Demon Drink
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You are good at getting people to confess, aren't you?!
Perhaps you should have tried the Priesthood...
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If it hadn't been for the celibacy bit, I might have. I think the church got off more lightly than it knows.
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