The disgusting Tory letter in this weeks Ob

[garinda]

Yes, it's shameful when people 'make things up'.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...-49671-28.html

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by andrewb

Hiddlebit it wasn't interestingly timed, the FOI was more than a year ago.

I think it's quite shameful that Graham has to make things up, without a single shred of evidence. Shameful that not a single Labour member has come out and said 'wait, Graham, there is no evidence, at all, maybe you should re-think'.

All you're interested in is the letter. I put right and wrong before party. Have said the letter is wrong. Seems no Labour member is going to come out and say Graham's comments are wrong. Says it all, so I'll leave it at that.

If it will settle your wig, Graham's comments are true and I support what he has said. If you've asked to see his expenses, why is it such a bit deal that he has written what he has written without naming you?

You're coming across like a typical student activist, mouthing off over the slightest little thing that could be misconstrued as libel, and I'd advise you once again to get some perspective.

Nobody cares that you were written about in a very indirect way on Graham's blog, and it implies that you are extraordinarily egotistical if you believe that there is only one Tory activist in Hyndburn.

At the moment, no one is taking you seriously and you're making yourself a target for the whole of the Tory backlash on this forum.

Oscar Wilde once said, 'I'm not young enough to know everything' and it's worth having a little think about.

[Hiddlebit]

For the record, Andrewb. Don't assume the way I vote on the basis of an apolitical statement that happened not to support you. Just check my posts about Tory Bliar.

[lindsay ormerod]

Just in case anyone was remotely interested in the "potholes" scandal that isnt, Graham Jones knocked on my door in Peel ward (and a good many other doors too) about 4 months ago and asked me if there were any problems he could help with, I mentioned the pitiful state of Water Street, which was full of potholes, Graham said he would go and take a look, it has now been resurfaced, Graham doesn't live on Water St. (nor does he own an ice cream parlour anywhere near it!)

[Morecambe Ex Pat]

Thank you for an entertaining thread.
I take it from the tone of some of the posts in this thread that some of you are actually Councillors who represent the residents of Hyndburn in the corridors of spending.
I assume you manage some serious political debate between extended sessions of back stabbing, personal insults and utter chidishness.
I know nothing of your policies and aims for the borough but know plenty about how a number of the local Councilors should not be in a position of power.
This is not a smear coming from any particular political direction but simply an observation from an ex resident of Hyndburn.
It totally defeats me what part, party politics plays in local govenrment apart from being able to say what flavour the Council is.
It appears far more important to bang the drum of a political party and deny that the other lot can ever come up with suggestions which benefit the community, than actually pulling together for the common good.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Morecambe Ex Pat

Thank you for an entertaining thread.
I take it from the tone of some of the posts in this thread that some of you are actually Councillors who represent the residents of Hyndburn in the corridors of spending.
I assume you manage some serious political debate between extended sessions of back stabbing, personal insults and utter chidishness.
I know nothing of your policies and aims for the borough but know plenty about how a number of the local Councilors should not be in a position of power.
This is not a smear coming from any particular political direction but simply an observation from an ex resident of Hyndburn.
It totally defeats me what part, party politics plays in local govenrment apart from being able to say what flavour the Council is.
It appears far more important to bang the drum of a political party and deny that the other lot can ever come up with suggestions which benefit the community, than actually pulling together for the common good.

Originally Posted by Morecambe Ex Pat

I am a newbie to this site and I can't wait to read a political debate between you folks. Your debates turn to 'pistols at dawn' over something trivial as a funny avatar.
I can't wait for the elections!

I'd have thought you'd have relished the feverish frisson and fire that politics still ignites here in Hyndburn.

Certainly beats sitting in a shelter on the prom, singing with other like mined migrants, 'I know I am, I'm sure I am, I'm H-A-P-P-Y', as the wind lashes more rain in from The Irish Sea.

[garinda]

UNHAPPY: Coun Marlene Haworth

Tory trio quit Hyndburn executive committee in election row (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Since Cllr. Haworth recently felt compelled to resign from the executive committee of the local Conservative Association, angered that they'd had an imposed candidate list forced upon them, presumably because CCO didn't trust their judgement in choosing their own candidate, perhaps this public spleen venting, aimed at the opposition, was done because she feels powerless to target her anger at the people who now run the Conservative party, so she had to find a handy substitute.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

UNHAPPY: Coun Marlene Haworth

Tory trio quit Hyndburn executive committee in election row (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Since Cllr. Haworth recently felt compelled to resign from the executive committee of the local Conservative Association, angered that they'd had an imposed candidate list forced upon them, presumably because CCO didn't trust their judgement in choosing their own candidate, perhaps this public spleen venting, aimed at the opposition, was done because she feels powerless to target her anger at the people who now run the Conservative party, so she had to find a handy substitute.

Coun Marlene Haworth?.. thanks for that..she looks more like councillor Freddie Krugger of Elm Street Ward

[Morecambe Ex Pat]

I don't see any Political debate, only personal slanging matches.
As for the shelter - The view of the Lake Districe is fantastic from here.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Morecambe Ex Pat

Thank you for an entertaining thread.
I take it from the tone of some of the posts in this thread that some of you are actually Councillors

Just so you don't worry, whilst at the same time being 'entertained', two councillors have posted in this thread. The others are merely shocked residents.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Morecambe Ex Pat

As for the shelter - The view of the Lake Districe is fantastic from here.

If only the people at the other side of the Bay, could say the same thing!

[Morecambe Ex Pat]

By eck owd lad, that film teks me back to a time wen a wer a lad. It wer gradely then in Accrington, rickets, diptheria, smog and even't budgie had a job deawwn't pit sniffin out methane.

Now in Accrington, the pits have gone, the mills have gone, the market's all but gone, many decent pubs have gone, that factory where they turned cows into milk has gone, factory mekkin outdoor gear has moved out, tax office has shut due to a lack of customers, some tea leaf has carted away loads of house from the area around Blackburn Road and even the Coppice is hiding behind the trees.
Are you really in a position to take the rip out of Morecambe?

The people on the other side of the bay are far too posh to look South.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Morecambe Ex Pat

Are you really in a position to take the rip out of Morecambe?

Yes, because my grandparents retired there, and my aunt and uncle lived further round the Bay, so I've known the dreary place for many years.

You are lucky in sometimes having nice sunsets, setting over the Bay and mountains, just as those lucky residents in Grange get to see the sunrise above Morecambe's gasworks.

[Less]

Originally Posted by garinda

Yes, because my grandparents retired there, and my aunt and uncle lived further round the Bay, so I've known the dreary place for many years.

You are lucky in sometimes having nice sunsets, setting over the Bay and mountains, just as those lucky residents in Grange get to see the sunrise above Morecambe's gasworks.

As nice as it is to have the odd day out in a Chara' to visit a town that has had it's sand stolen,

Can we perhaps get back onto the topic of this thread, I for one find it far more interesting and relevant to what is coming up in the near future.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Less

As nice as it is to have the odd day out in a Chara' to visit a town that has had it's sand stolen,

Can we perhaps get back onto the topic of this thread, I for one find it far more interesting and relevant to what is coming up in the near future.

Since Bernard doubted the authenticity of the letter, as not being written by our councillor, I'm eagerly anticipating seeing a full retraction in tomorrow's Observer.