The House of Lords - Page 3

Ianto.W. · 09-02-2007, 02:27

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SPUGGIE J, For our system to work the public has to trust those in power which at the moment they do.

Do you think spuggie may want to edit that post tomorrow cashman. That has to be a first 'trust' those in power.

SPUGGIE J · 09-02-2007, 02:46

Changes are need for things to evolve. British Govenment sometimes seems to be stuck in the 19C. As for the US system then no we are too small but in a way it has happened with Scotland having its own parliment, Wales has an Assembly, and NI will if they sort out their silly childish bickering. Too much power in a small area leads to trouble sooner or later. For our system to work the public has to trust those in power which at the moment they dont.

Happy now.

Ianto.W. · 09-02-2007, 03:05

Sorry SPUGGIE J, but it reminded me of that piece of paper Chaimberlain came back with, from that meeting he had with Adolf.

SPUGGIE J · 09-02-2007, 04:42

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

Sorry SPUGGIE J, but it reminded me of that piece of paper Chaimberlain came back with, from that meeting he had with Adolf.

Oh the Munich aggreement that Mr Appeasment signed up to and the phrase "piece in our time" Not good considering he considered Hitler as a politition like any other.

andrewb · 09-02-2007, 09:01

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

Changes are need for things to evolve. British Govenment sometimes seems to be stuck in the 19C. As for the US system then no we are too small but in a way it has happened with Scotland having its own parliment, Wales has an Assembly, and NI will if they sort out their silly childish bickering. Too much power in a small area leads to trouble sooner or later. For our system to work the public has to trust those in power which at the moment they dont.

Happy now.

As far as I was aware our system is working now.. so either your statement is wrong or people do still have some trust!

SPUGGIE J · 09-02-2007, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

As far as I was aware our system is working now.. so either your statement is wrong or people do still have some trust!

Maybe some do but they are in a minority that is shrinking. With all that has gone on in Parliment over the last few years can you say that you trust those in power whether in the Commons or the Lords because I can safely say I dont. Too much self intrest and "back door dealing" going on to make them respectable. If the Lords end up full of for the lack of a better word and they are in the majority then what happens if the Conservitives are in power and the Lords dont like whats happening with the bills? Are we going to see more dilution of their powers or more use of the Parliment Act?

andrewb · 09-02-2007, 13:57

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

If the Lords end up full of for the lack of a better word and they are in the majority then what happens if the Conservitives are in power and the Lords dont like whats happening with the bills? Are we going to see more dilution of their powers or more use of the Parliment Act?

I don't think I understand. What do you mean if the lords are in a majority?

SPUGGIE J · 09-02-2007, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

I don't think I understand. What do you mean if the lords are in a majority?

Sorry if Labour peers are in the majority.

Acrylic-bob · 09-02-2007, 16:28

Errm Labour Peers are in the majority in the House of Lords.

SPUGGIE J · 09-02-2007, 16:59

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Errm Labour Peers are in the majority in the House of Lords.

Cheers for that AB, I wasnt sure. So on that basis it would be fun and games if the tories win next time. All there will be is political tennis due to political ideology and a slow prosses of getting things done.

andrewb · 09-02-2007, 22:20

Labour peers don't have an overall majority in that they have 212 peers, Conservatives 206, but there are 201 cross bench peers, so its not as if Labour peers could just control the house.

Along with 78 lib dem peers, 2UKIP, 1 Green party, 11 non-affiliated and 26Lords Spritual.

Ianto.W. · 12-02-2007, 15:49

That Cyfr is a lot of mouths to feed, how do this unelected body get paid? annually or by appearance. If it is the latter they will get very little money, if they put the same time in the 'upper' house, as their counterparts put in the 'lower' house.

andrewb · 12-02-2007, 16:28

They don't get paid apart from those in special roles, full list here: http://www.parliament.uk/faq/pay_faq_page.cfm#pay6L

Where as if they were elected they'll get paid I presume.