The latest from Europe

jaysay · 25-02-2008, 10:15

The latest law being pushed on us by European Union is that all cars will have to use lights on our roads 24 hours a day. The Government didn't wanted to impose this new law, but found they had to, one small chink is that this will only apply to new cars. A motoring organisation has said that this will put motorcycle riders at risk when this new law comes in

WalkOnBRFC · 25-02-2008, 10:47

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Originally Posted by jaysay

The latest law being pushed on us by European Union is that all cars will have to use lights on our roads 24 hours a day. The Government didn't wanted to impose this new law, but found they had to, one small chink is that this will only apply to new cars. A motoring organisation has said that this will put motorcycle riders at risk when this new law comes in

On the radio this morning it said that this would only stand in Newcastle?

entwisi · 25-02-2008, 11:18

why should it put bikers at risk? we tend to run with headlights all the time and some bikes are wired with them permanently on. As a Volvo owner I have mine on all the time as well(I can turn them off but it needs a screwdriver and I am too lazy) and no-one seems to be struggling to see me.

WalkOnBRFC · 25-02-2008, 11:33

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Originally Posted by entwisi

why should it put bikers at risk? we tend to run with headlights all the time and some bikes are wired with them permanently on. As a Volvo owner I have mine on all the time as well(I can turn them off but it needs a screwdriver and I am too lazy) and no-one seems to be struggling to see me.

It might have something to do with the rust falling off it that people don't have a problem noticing you

Maybe you could use a rachet to charge up the lights if you turn fast enough

panther · 25-02-2008, 11:40

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Originally Posted by entwisi

why should it put bikers at risk? we tend to run with headlights all the time and some bikes are wired with them permanently on. As a Volvo owner I have mine on all the time as well(I can turn them off but it needs a screwdriver and I am too lazy) and no-one seems to be struggling to see me.

was just gonna say that volvos have them on all the time.....cant see what the problem is meself

MikeSz · 25-02-2008, 11:55

I suppose it would stop all the women who forget to turn their lights on

jackyalex · 25-02-2008, 11:58

Motorcyclists have their headlights on all the time for their own safety so they can be seen by others, if drivers wernt so ignorant and LOOKED where they were going riders wouldnt have to have their lights on all the time

panther · 25-02-2008, 12:00

most drivers dont even have there fog lights on when needed!!

WalkOnBRFC · 25-02-2008, 12:02

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Originally Posted by MikeSz

I suppose it would stop all the women who forget to turn their lights on

Wow your brave!

Neil · 25-02-2008, 12:03

At least having them on all the time would stop those idiots driving around with their side lights on. If you think you need lights on then switch on your headlights dim wits. The number of people who put side lights on when the visibilty is poor on the motorway is amazing. When you look through a wet window at your door mirrors you can barely see them compared to people with headlights on. You should be unable to have sidelights on when the engine is running IMHO.

Don't get me started on you idiots who drive around with your fog lights on when it is not foggy (or adverse driving conditions as it says in the highway code) you should all be shot. On many cars having your rear fogs on makes your brake lights stand out less. This means the car behind you might not spot you are braking for a second or two longer, that could be enough time for him to hit you if you are braking hard for some reason.

On the negative side to having lights on all the time there is of course the enviromental aspect. I thought this Government were trying to reduce carbon emissions. Seeing as everything on your car runs of petrol/diesel/LPG/Asda rapeseed oil or whatever fuel you are burning, having your lights on when not needed will use more fuel and create more CO2 emissions.

WalkOnBRFC · 25-02-2008, 12:03

In Pakistan and simliar countries they don't put their head lights on till extremely late at night when it is pitch black according to an Asian friend of mine

jackyalex · 25-02-2008, 12:05

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Originally Posted by panther

most drivers dont even have there fog lights on when needed!!

most drivers have their fog lights on when its not foggy and it dazzles the driver behind them

WalkOnBRFC · 25-02-2008, 12:05

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Originally Posted by Neil

At least having them on all the time would stop those idiots driving around with their side lights on. If you think you need lights on then switch on your headlights dim wits. The number of people who put side lights on when the visibilty is poor on the motorway is amazing. When you look through a wet window at your door mirrors you can barely see them compared to people with headlights on. You should be unable to have sidelights on when the engine is running IMHO.

Don't get me started on you idiots who drive around with your fog lights on when it is not foggy (or adverse driving conditions as it says in the highway code) you should all be shot. On many cars having your rear fogs on makes your brake lights stand out less. This means the car behind you might not spot you are braking for a second or two longer, that could be enough time for him to hit you if you are braking hard for some reason.

On the negative side to having lights on all the time there is of course the enviromental aspect. I thought this Government were trying to reduce carbon emissions. Seeing as everything on your car runs of petrol/diesel/LPG/Asda rapeseed oil or whatever fuel you are burning, having your lights on when not needed will use more fuel and create more CO2 emissions.

Another perk of being in the EU

Neil · 25-02-2008, 12:06

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Originally Posted by jackyalex

if drivers wernt so ignorant and LOOKED where they were going riders wouldnt have to have their lights on all the time

If bike riders knew that the speed limit is not a target to be doubled we might have chance to see you coming before we pull out and your body liquefies on impact with our cars.

I think bikes should be banned from the roads. All the improvements that have been made to cars for safety like air bags, seat belts, pre-tensioners and now these stupid Volvos that are going to start applying the brakes for you.
What have they done to improve bike safety, suggest you wear leathers and hand on tight?

I firmly believe that if the motorbike was invented today it would not be allowed on the public highway.

jackyalex · 25-02-2008, 12:08

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Originally Posted by Neil

If bike riders knew that the speed limit is not a target to be doubled we might have chance to see you coming before we pull out and your body liquefies on impact with our cars.

I think bikes should be banned from the roads. All the improvements that have been made to cars for safety like air bags, seat belts, pre-tensioners and now these stupid Volvos that are going to start applying the brakes for you.
What have they done to improve bike safety, suggest you wear leathers and hand on tight?

I firmly believe that if the motorbike was invented today it would not be allowed on the public highway.

Why are you assuming i am a bike rider? i dont ride i drive