The n.h.s.

[Margaret Pilkington]

What those university trained nurse do not have is EXPERIENCE.
When you have watched someone who was a nice respectable man get violent in the middle of the night…..and yet all his vital signs are within normal limits…..when he tries to climb over the cot side(put there for his safety)….when you see him rip the cannula that is giving him a blood transfusion from his arm…..and you do not know why this is all happening.
A good consultant comes along…whips him off to theatre and saves him from ‘bleeding out’…you really understand how lack of oxygen to the brain can affect someone……(and this was my experience as a second year student on night duty) you never ever forget it.
And that is the difference.
Those University qualified nurses may have the text book learning, but it does not compare to actually seeing and experiencing events in a patients life.

[taddy]

what happened on post (27) ? where it says, Quote, "originally posted by Taddy", this was not one of my posts

[Less]

Originally Posted by taddy

what happened on post (27) ? where it says, Quote, "originally posted by Taddy", this was not one of my posts

Its simply due to the way you quote other people, if when you copy and paste you miss out some of the code it confuses the system and makes further errors easier to happen.
Have a read of the quotes and quoting link at the bottom of my signature.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Guinness you talk about care being hammered…..and yes you are right. It has been hammered and the rules about vaccinations were flawed…..seriously so!

How can it be that these carers were dumped in the way that they were for exercising a personal choice…..especially as this jab has proved not to be the protection that a true vaccine should be….but hey that is for another different discussion.

Maybe this is because those with Special care needs are seen as less valued….however wrong that is.

As for the vocation of care workers being rubbished….not from me it isn’t.
I know full well how hard care staff work and for what I consider to be poor pay(if you doubled it, it still would fall short).
Maybe that is because the care homes are businesses and have to make a profit.
There is also a big difference in the kind of care in these facilities…..yes I know some of them have residents with complex needs….but I feel sure these are looked after by trained nurses who are fortunate enough to have a recognised pay scale( this eats into the profits of the business making it even less likely that other carers get what they are worth).

When you look at the fees for residential care, they are more than you would pay for a five star hotel.
And I know that is perhaps a bad analogy, but it is hard to see the value for some people.

I hope I am never in the position to need care in one of these places…..and that is not because they are all bad….but some of the are not home and they are not caring about it either.
That is just my opinion from observation of some of these places.

[taddy]

Originally Posted by Less

Its simply due to the way you quote other people, if when you copy and paste you miss out some of the code it confuses the system and makes further errors easier to happen.
Have a read of the quotes and quoting link at the bottom of my signature.

HaHa, "copy and paste", remember Less that you are talking to the self proclaimed "Lancashire Luddite" here, the only "paste", that I know of goes on the back of a roll of wallpaper, unless it's ready pasted of course.

[Less]

Originally Posted by taddy

HaHa, "copy and paste", remember Less that you are talking to the self proclaimed "Lancashire Luddite" here, the only "paste", that I know of goes on the back of a roll of wallpaper, unless it's ready pasted of course.

It's simple enough even you can stop doing your Mr. pastry decorating act by just trying a little.
OR
Alternatively, cut the plug off your P.C. and go live under the stairs knowing that technology beat you!

[taddy]

I have looked at the Quote and Quoting Less, (still Flummexed), I know thats not spelt right but neer mind.

[taddy]

Originally Posted by Less

It's simple enough even you can stop doing your Mr. pastry decorating act by just trying a little.
OR
Alternatively, cut the plug off your P.C. and go live under the stairs knowing that technology beat you!

Thanks for that Less, as you know my computer is steam driven using Windows X.P. but, (hold on to your hat), My oldest daughters husband is a "computer wiskid",(although not so much a kid any more), sorry Ed. He is looking for a new fangled all singing all dancing machine for his Luddite Father in Law, which means that I shall have to get rid of the old boiler (no not the wife) that is at the moment providing the steam for my present machine.
Whether I will be able to cope with the more up to date model is anyones guess but, as I keep being reminded by Mrs Taddy, don't be such a Tight----
and spend some of the money that you worked 50 year's for, It's not doing owt in the bank.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Taddy looking at your post where you mentioned your hospital stay ten years ago…..and the university trained staff knew how to work the technical electronic gadgetry…..just thought I would say…it doesn’t take a university education to know how to operate these…..and while they are looking at the gadgetry(which can be wrong)….my training taught me to look at my patient…..as well as any gadgetry.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Taddy….get yourself on YouTube for some instruction on how to copy and paste.
If you see how to do it , then it might make more sense.
You are NEVER too old to learn some new tricks.

[taddy]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Taddy looking at your post where you mentioned your hospital stay ten years ago…..and the university trained staff knew how to work the technical electronic gadgetry…..just thought I would say…it doesn’t take a university education to know how to operate these…..and while they are looking at the gadgetry(which can be wrong)….my training taught me to look at my patient…..as well as any gadgetry.

Quite right Marge, on both counts.

[shillelagh]

over the last year ive managed to use the nhs a flipping lot more than what i normally do ... at the minute im in isolation ... tuesday morning ive to go to burnley general to have an injection in my shoulder .. which some people have had at accy pals or their docs .. i have to go to the operating theatre at burnley general .. they dont do it at blackburn ...anyway i was told this in september last year .. was offered a date in october said i couldnt attend then because i had a hospital appointment with the eye doc at blackburn .. she said she would ring me back ... she rang back last week!!!

[Margaret Pilkington]

Jen….I hope that this time you get the injection done.

My daughter has had a CT scan postponed numerous times over the last 18 months…..this is part of her supposedly regular follow ups for the recurrence of her cancer…..so you would think it was important….and since her surgery in Oct 2020 she has been seen once by her surgeon.
If anyone could tell me how an abdomen can be palpated over a telephone consultation….or a stoma inspected…..I would be very grateful.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

If anyone could tell me how an abdomen can be palpated over a telephone consultation….or a stoma inspected…..I would be very grateful.

Don't know about a machine that connects to a phone for palpitating Stomachs yet...
However this:-
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inspection-...s%2C124&sr=8-7

May work for the inspection! I wonder, could you get one on prescription?

[Margaret Pilkington]

That seems to be quite cheap Less…if I thought it would be of value I would fund it myself!

Maybe that is what the NHS is relying on…..now do Amazon sell CT scanners?
(That is the really big issue….no scan for 18 months…..so anything could be going on and by the time it is found…..well you get the picture. A big worry)