The next five years - Page 7

Mancie · 15-05-2010, 03:44

On a more sombre note a vid of David Cameron and Nick Clegg.. Golden Years

(well the next five!)

Ken Moss · 15-05-2010, 07:53

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Originally Posted by cashman

Aint seen that Margaret, but the fact that they have reduced M.P.s salarys by 5% today, means quite simply we will all get severly crucified very shortly. thats a knocking bet.

Bear in mind that there are many ways to fiddle the figures.

A 5% reduction in MPs' salaries would show up in pay statistics but an increase in allowances wouldn't unless it was looked into closely. Mind you, they have to live in London for 75% of the time so I'll cut them a little slack.

Much as I would like to believe that there is a ruthless war on waste going on in Westminster, part of me remains cynical.

Eric · 15-05-2010, 07:55

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Originally Posted by Mancie

It's strange how a party that call themselves "Liberal Democrats" could have the bare faced cheek to sign up for a system that does not allow the electorate the right to vote out a Government... it could only happen in Britain..or Burma..or North Korea.

Sure doesn't sound democratic to me. I always thought that if the government lost a motion of confidence, had it's budget voted down, or was defeated on any "money" bill, even by one vote then the government has to go to the people in another General Election ... even by one vote. I realise that another election hard on the heels of one that elected a minority government would be unpopular, but that's not the point. The opposition over here knows that Canadians don't want another elecction; so, they don't use their power to get rid of the tories. But that's not the point either. Manipulating percentages in order to transform a minority into a majority is pure, unadulterated bs.

MargaretR · 15-05-2010, 08:22

Even riots in the streets wouldn't work now, because the police have some seriously powerful gadgets to disperse crowds.

jaysay · 15-05-2010, 08:48

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Originally Posted by Mancie

It's strange how a party that call themselves "Liberal Democrats" could have the bare faced cheek to sign up for a system that does not allow the electorate the right to vote out a Government... it could only happen in Britain..or Burma..or North Korea.

Or America

DaveinGermany · 15-05-2010, 10:00

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Originally Posted by Mancie

It's strange how a party that call themselves "Liberal Democrats" could have the bare faced cheek to sign up for a system that does not allow the electorate the right to vote out a Government... it could only happen in Britain..or Burma..or North Korea.

Its all about facing facts ! Things happen we don't like & disagree with but as sensible adults ? We've got to live with it, or not as the case maybe; eh Mancie ! If everybody threw their toys out of the pram when things don't go their way we'd be in a right old pickle, we just have to accept that !

cmonstanley · 15-05-2010, 12:50

thats 5000 nhs jobs gone in scotland .wheres next ???????

DaveinGermany · 15-05-2010, 17:20

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

thats 5000 nhs jobs gone in scotland .wheres next ???????

Are you referring to these cuts ?

New health service fears as job cuts set to rise far beyond 5,000 - Herald Scotland | News | Health

If so were is the relevance to England ? It's the Scottish Parliament that are pursuing these changes, they've been in charge of their own affairs since July 1999 & are not influenced by events in England. The SNP hold sway in Scotland & it is their internal wrangling that are leading to this situation. I'm sorry, but I just can't see the reasoning of how this can be tagged onto the next 5 years of Englands Government.

DaveinGermany · 15-05-2010, 17:39

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Are you referring to these cuts ?

New health service fears as job cuts set to rise far beyond 5,000 - Herald Scotland | News | Health

If so were is the relevance to England ? It's the Scottish Parliament that are pursuing these changes, they've been in charge of their own affairs since July 1999 & are not influenced by events in England. The SNP hold sway in Scotland & it is their internal wrangling that are leading to this situation. I'm sorry, but I just can't see the reasoning of how this can be tagged onto the next 5 years of Englands Government.

Just so we're 100% sure !

Up to 5,000 Scottish NHS jobs face axe - Telegraph

Thanks to the Barnett formula, this will result in more money for Scotland, with SNP ministers deciding how this is spent.

This being the most important line.

Boeing Guy · 16-05-2010, 07:55

Dave, didn't you know, it's all Maggies fault

Margaret Pilkington · 16-05-2010, 08:21

I'm not taking the blame!

Eric · 16-05-2010, 08:37

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Its all about facing facts ! Things happen we don't like & disagree with but as sensible adults ? We've got to live with it, or not as the case maybe; eh Mancie ! If everybody threw their toys out of the pram when things don't go their way we'd be in a right old pickle, we just have to accept that !

What "facts"? There are no facts, just mere political contingency that insults the majority of voters ... that's those who did not want a Conservative government.