The NHS is rediculous

[cashman]

Originally Posted by garinda

Glad they treated your clap so speedily.

thats cheered me up big time.

[harwood red]

Originally Posted by garinda

Glad they treated your clap so speedily.

OMG I sooo wish I could give you karma again.... but have to spread it around...bet you can retort to that one too

Glad it was sorted so speedily cashy...and good one paris for nagging him to get it sorted..

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Neil

The person was stood at the reception, the surgery is about 200 yards from where the man lived.



What a crock, the Doctor could have done what any trained first aider would do, try to preserve life until the cavalry arrive. That is what I am taught as a first aider.

Neil, I reckon you would have been more help than the doctor.

[cashman]

had another minor op tuesday afternoon, in and out in about 90mins that was brill i thought, no complaints - till now- was on me right ear n its haggin me now n as i sleep on that side tonights gonna be a bitch.

[piltymon]

Originally Posted by Cyfr

Where do I start. Christmas 2005 I started getting really bad headaches and then felt really sick, so I went to my doctor when it continued for a few days.
I was given medication, the headaches went away but the sickness didn't and I also had bad stomach pains.

The pains got so bad in early January that I called 999 because it was that bad at one point. I had bloods done, and more medications and a drip because I'd lost a lot of fluid from being sick all the time.

Over time throwing up stopped (months we're talking) but the feeling sick and pain did not stop. I went back to my doctor many many times, he gave me lots of different types of medication none of which helped. I had an endoscopy (camera down in to my stomach) which I had to wait like 8weeks for, and a CT scan which was also going to be an 8weeks wait. However its not as if I just had 16weeks and I was all checked out, had to go in and out of the doctors and out of patients surgery every few weeks, sometimes more than once a week, in order to convince them that they needed to put me on the waiting list.

Neither the Endoscopy or CT scan showed anything conclusive. So my doctor and consultant basicly put it down to something i'd have to live with.

I kept going back and annoying my doctor, because I wasn't getting better, feeling sick EVERY DAY and nothing was working. By now its had a major impact on my every day life, I mean how would you feel to be sick 24/7?

We insisted we be refered to a specialist in Manchester which we were, weeks and weeks later I got another test for stomach acid. Then another 6weeks later (today) I visited Manchester Royal Infirmary for the results.

We had to wait 2hours longer than our appointment time, then we saw a doctor, who wasn't the consultant which we had on our letter, who had NO case notes, NO test results had NO idea what had been going on for the last 1.5years, and gave me medication which i've already had and didn't work. Now I have to wait a further 7weeks to be seen again.

I really can't express how angry I am. I have been passed pillar to post for the last 1.5years and it's quite frankly beyond the joke. The waiting times are a joke for things they could just tell me over the phone, or things that just don't need to wait that long for, the communication between departments is a shambles. How am I ever supposed to get anywhere if I have to explain my situation to a different doctor everytime I visit? I'm not getting any followups, im being treated as a new patient everytime I visit.

One point five years. I'm an otherwise healthy 18year old who should be enjoying life, but I can't. I don't understand how they can get it so wrong. Why can't somebody sit down, understand the situation, follow the situation through to the end resulting in a diagnosis and treatment?

Quite frankly, Mr Blair, Mr Brown, and New Labour, your waiting times might be down, but it dosn't mean a damn thing if people are not getting better.

The NHS is I agree in a ridiculous state. Spare a thought for the American public though. I recently went to th ER and was charged nearly $3000 for a 10 minute check up and 2 prescriptions!

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by blazey

It would probably be risky for a doctor to really go to help someone if they dont know of any allergies or medication the person is on. The doctor at most could only really do basic first aid which i suppose couldve been a help, but nothing more than that.

Its a shame that the doctor didnt help but its difficult for doctor to make that decision really as its his job on the line if he doesnt check everything properly before he goes to do something. Sad world.

Neither would the attending paramedics but they like the doctor would look around the flat for evidence of medication.

A fully qualified doctor couldn’t do more than basic first aid? Now where did you get that from? In any case basic first is better than nothing and could be the difference between life and death.

In my view the doctor was wrong not to try and help.

[Ianto.W.]

Cyfr, Neither the Endoscopy or CT scan showed anything conclusive. So my doctor and consultant basicly put it down to something i'd have to live with.

I think this is the best advice you have been given so far, I do no wish to sound 'uncharitable' towards you, but there are members on here and I suspect guests, who have been told the same thing at some time in their life. I could name names, or be self indulgent, but this would not be the right way, do as the Doctor said, learn to live with it. Good god man it could be worse, it could be terminal, so get your head round it and stop feeling sorry for youself.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by jambutty

Neither would the attending paramedics but they like the doctor would look around the flat for evidence of medication.

A fully qualified doctor couldn’t do more than basic first aid? Now where did you get that from? In any case basic first is better than nothing and could be the difference between life and death.

In my view the doctor was wrong not to try and help.

I didnt say it was the case, I said maybe thats why he wasn't keen to help. If things arent done be regulations these days you can guarantee a lawsuit against you even if you were acting within decent morals.

[Lilly]

Originally Posted by blazey

It would probably be risky for a doctor to really go to help someone if they dont know of any allergies or medication the person is on. The doctor at most could only really do basic first aid which i suppose couldve been a help, but nothing more than that.

Its a shame that the doctor didnt help but its difficult for doctor to make that decision really as its his job on the line if he doesnt check everything properly before he goes to do something. Sad world.

What about when someone is taken ill on a plane?The crew say 'is there a doctor on the flight?' and if there is a doctor on board he would attend to the ill person.The doctor wouldn't be expected to know their medical history,they would just get in there and do their stuff to save life.Why couldn't this doctor have just gone over to the flat and done the same?

[MargaretR]

I directed a few people to this thread before it got deleted so I think more than just me and Cashy saw it. Cashy's response was deleted because he quoted you. I suppose the mods thought it was best for you that not everybody knows.
I was AMAZED!! -deserves good karma - will try - but I remember giving you some recently so it might not let me.

[WillowTheWhisp]

We're not supposed to talk about delete things.

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

I directed a few people to this thread before it got deleted so I think more than just me and Cashy saw it. Cashy's response was deleted because he quoted you. I suppose the mods thought it was best for you that not everybody knows.
I was AMAZED!! -deserves good karma - will try - but I remember giving you some recently so it might not let me.

In hindsight it was best deleted, I broke the official secrets by disclosing my job.

Shame I didn't keep a copy I might want to use it again

Okay back to topic

[WillowTheWhisp]

Drat - I was supposed to ask about the results of a blood test today but got distracted by my daughter wanting to talk to her hairdresser and then I forgot!

[MargaretR]

Willow can you delete me - I dont want any suggestion of trouble for Dave

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Willow can you delete me - I dont want any suggestion of trouble for Dave

I'm not in any trouble Margaret, don't worry about it