The NHS is rediculous - Page 16

WillowTheWhisp · 10-07-2007, 13:05

What an odd way to behave.

Ianto.W. · 10-07-2007, 13:28

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

What an odd way to behave.

If it works for me it will work for anyone willow, a little whisky in the holy water may be all that is lacking.

cashman · 10-07-2007, 13:40

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Originally Posted by blazey

Most people are unwilling to help in this country when a stranger needs it. Why a doctor should be criticised just because he didn't go to help isn't really something we should pick fault with. I got beat up on a main road by a large gang of girls and cars just drove on by like nothing was happening, but I wont think badly of them for not helping, as there is just no duty to do so and its always easier to not get involved unfortunatly.

well sorry i disagree strongly with this statement have you never heard of MORAL DUTY?

mez · 21-07-2007, 10:26

UPDATE..........well after 7 months of telling the docs there's something wrong & several blood tests later i have been diagnosed type 2 diabetic, was finally told last friday . with the words "you are diabetic, take these tablets you can have free eye tests & take care of your feet, don't eat sugar & make an appointment with diabetic clinic" to which i replied " ok but my feet are still swelling & my bones are hurting " the reply you guessed it !!!"its the diabetes " so i make appointment for clinic 3rd of august...now im not bl***y happy about this but will wait my time ...i bought my own meter & have been testing my own bloods (which are high at times) now the diet ? what do i do ? so much hidden sugars & fats in food these days .........paid £37 online for tesco e-diets which seem to be helping me get an idea of what i can & can't eat, all in all im not a happy bunny at the min .the only person helping me is my darling daughter jet who is also diabetic but has hers under control, now i get shouted at told off & helped greatly (THANKS CHUCK) so off to asda again today for another lesson as to what to look for ...................N.H.S ? WHAT IS IT?

lettie · 21-07-2007, 11:47

Ooooh Mez, sorry about your diagnosis. When you go to your appointment at the Diabetic clinic, the specialist nurse will help you out with your blood sugar testing and diet. She/he may arrange for you to see the dietician.

You don't need a special diet for type 2 diabetes, you just need to eat healthily, meat, fish, veggies, fruit etc and cut down a bit on cakes, biscuits, alcohol, fizzy pop, chocolate. Reduce the amount of spuds, pasta etc in your meals and replace it with veg. Once you have some control of your sugars you can have the occasional treat. My gran has good control and hasn't made any drastic changes, just a few small ones and she still enjoys the occasional cake or 3..

MargaretR · 21-07-2007, 11:49

You will get free chiropody - just ask your doc to contact the local chiropody service.
My cousin (late 60s) has it and she found lots of good diet info on the web - but some of it confllicted with what the NHS dietician advised. It may well be a case of trial and error with diet, whilst monitoring your blood sugar frequently. It may take a few months to gain control but you will get there - keep you pecker up, mate

-good luck

garinda · 21-07-2007, 14:50

Sorry to hear that Mez.

My mum developed type II diabetes after she had a heart attack, which for some reason is quite common. My mum told me to tell you not to fret too much. With only a bit of thought it can be controlled quite easily. You can even have the odd bit of chocolate, if you have it at the right time, which is much better than that horrible diabetic chocolate, and won't give you belly ache!

I hope you get to see the diabetic nurse soon, and that she puts your mind at ease and helps you get on the right path.

G x

BERNADETTE · 21-07-2007, 17:21

I have to say that my experience with the NHS has been and still is brilliant. If

BERNADETTE · 21-07-2007, 17:32

Some of the experiences quoted sound horrific and i have nothing but sympathy for the unfortunate people involved, just glad my experiences with the NHS have been a lot more positive

Ber999T · 22-07-2007, 05:41

Mez don't forget that your GP may have a diabetic nurse so you maybe able to get help form that source to. Type ii is diet and med controlled so just adjust somethings and see how you get on. The advice from Lettie is very revelent.

Cyfr how are you doing and have you been given a final diagnosis and treatment????

mez · 22-07-2007, 06:36

thanks everyone im fine really & coping (i hope) it was just the way in which i was told & dealt with by the gp that got my blood boiling , im seeing the diabetic nurse at my doctors in a couple of weeks, yes i still have my favorite ice cream & a little bit of chocolate, & im losing my weight quite nicely (yipee) only trouble is i loose it from my feet & bum first he he......hey i may be slim again .........one day (i wish).

steeljack · 22-07-2007, 07:58

Mez , I have found my blood sugar levels can jump from 110 to 200 overnight from eating a 1/2 pound bag of cherries from the local Farmers market , best way I have found for keeping some sort of equilibrium is to avoid any kind of processed food and eating only fresh stuff , I dumped all the refined cooking oils , only use olive oil and unsalted butter , have dumped all the frozen TV dinners, (Lasagne and Pizzas etc.)
not sure what you have in the way of artifical sweeteners in the UK but I found out the 'blue' packets are better than the 'pink' packets and only half a sachet is enough .
as an aside Rindy mentioned that his Mom had problems after having heart problems , think this is usual as folks who have had heart trouble tend to cut back on execise out of some fear that they may excaberate the problem

WillowTheWhisp · 22-07-2007, 08:20

Funnily enough Mez called round here last night and was telling me about this. Earlier in the year we'd been comparing notes about swollen ankles and falling asleep.............

We have a fairly similar story.

I've been having an ongoing saga with my GPs (plural because you never see the same person twice) about my swollen ankles/legs/fingers, water retention, tiredness at unusual times and lack of tiredness at normal times (a bit like jet lag), inability to lose weight and 1001 other downright irritating things. I've been prodded and poked at the surgery and in hospital, had blood tests for this, that, the other and summat else, been in an out of hospital for ops and tests and so many different appointments I haven't known if I was coming or going. Last year it was verified that I do have a heart which is working perfectly well. Must be the only part of me that is!!!

Then a few weeks ago I was sent down Clayton for yet more blood tests and a glucose tollerance test. They told me to ring my GP in a couple of days for the results. I rang but they couldn't tell me! The person I spoke to asked if I'd had my appointment through yet for the cardio vascular clinic. (Well no what she actually said was CVR which didn't mean a thing to me but even when she said cardio vascular it only confused me more.) I told her that I'd had the angiogram and everything and my heart was fine. She said it mustn't be because I was down to get an appointment for the cardio vascular.

Confused? You bet I was. When I called in for a repeat prescription I asked again about this glucose test and was told that they can't tell me at reception. I have to ring up between 10am and 3pm. I would end up speaking to the person about cardio vasculars again which wasn't what I wanted. Then I got a letter with an appointment for the CVR clinic - a date which happens to be whilst I'm away so I phoned up and they said I would have to wait for another letter when I got back. Again I asked why I needed to see what to me sounded like heart people when I'd been told by BRH that my heart was hunky dory, in fact better than hunky dory and my GP had said my cholesterol was fine. Again I was told that I must be mistaken and that there would be good reason for seeing the heart team but I would have to wait until September as they couldn't fit me in before my hols. I concluded that it couldn't be all that serious then or they'd be asking me to cancel my hols.

But I still hadn't got to the bottom of this blood sugar test so I made an appointment to see a doctor to discuss it. As luck would have it this time I managed to see the only doctor down there who actually knows me, my family and our medical history.

I asked him about the glucose test. He looked at the results. "You have type 2 diabetes" he said.

Now why the flippin nora couldn't someone have told me this before now?

His advice was to avoid sugar which isn't difficult because I already do! I don't particularly like sugar in or on things so it's really only hidden sugar that I consume anyway (like in baked beans) apart from the occasional ice cream (which he said is OK in moderation) and chocolate which is rationed to a square a day! I deduced that my main sugar intake is from drinks as I have avoided the accursed aspartame. It's very difficult to avoid that and avoid sugar but I shall have to try.

I just find it very frustrating that no-one could have told me this before now.

And as for the CVR appointment - nothing to do with my heart at all. The diabetic clinic apparently comes under the same umbrella.

Anyway - get this under control and I live in hope that everything else will fall into place as it seems that all my problems could simply be symptoms of the diabetes.

mez · 22-07-2007, 10:19

i went to the docs in february & told him about my continuing tiredness & falling asleep at anytime even whilst driving the car his reply (&im still reeling from it) was "well don't fall asleep when driving" needless to say he was one that i complained about. still feel very tired & can fall asleep when i sit down but i have it under control these days.

Ianto.W. · 22-07-2007, 13:49

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Originally Posted by mez

i went to the docs in february & told him about my continuing tiredness & falling asleep at anytime even whilst driving the car his reply (&im still reeling from it) was "well don't fall asleep when driving" needless to say he was one that i complained about. still feel very tired & can fall asleep when i sit down but i have it under control these days.

If I were you and not to alarm you mez, I would seek a second opinion, the symtoms you have described are not to be taken lightly.Regards Ian.