The Pope - Page 5

WillowTheWhisp · 12-04-2005, 07:18

Did they wear them before?

chav1 · 12-04-2005, 07:31

i honestly dont know but condoms have been offered to them and they refuse them because they are not llowed to use them under the rules of their faith

i know the church/pope/etc was trying to help but in some cases i think it would be wiser for religeon to be kept out of things and let the aid workers do their job

it seems people are having no problem following the no condoms rule but arent finding the no sex rule as easy to follow

ime not attacking the catholic faith ime simply pointing out that imposing a no condom rule in a poverty stricken country rife with sexualy transmitted diseases was not the brightest idea

if i was an aid worker trying to help i would be tearing my hair out at all the aids victims ,especialy if i had been trying to educate them on safe sex and then along came somone saying no dont use condoms

Neil · 12-04-2005, 07:36

I think it is crazy about catholics and condoms. Can anyone explain to me where this comes from?

chav1 · 12-04-2005, 07:41

i suppose before condoms were around the catholic faith relied on the fear of getting somone pregnant before marrage to control their followers but when condoms came along it enables sex before marrage and no one would get caught so they banned the use of them

ime pretty sure the bible dosnt say thou shalt not wear rubber lol

as for who created the rule personaly i have no idea

WillowTheWhisp · 12-04-2005, 07:46

It's not just banned outside of marriage but within marriage too. Any form of contraception except "the rhythm method" is banned as being unnatural and against the laws of God (as in "go forth and multiply"). I've never understood how trm can be acceptable if the idea is that you shouldn't prevent nature taking it's course, apart from the possible fact that it's not really a reliable method and half the time doesn't work.

Neil · 12-04-2005, 07:47

I did some googling. It would appear this crazy Catholic no condom rule is killing tens of thousands of Africans every year. The more the Catholic faith spreads throughout Africa the more Africans will die. It must be Gods will of course.

Neil · 12-04-2005, 07:49

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

It's not just banned outside of marriage but within marriage too. Any form of contraception except "the rhythm method" is banned as being unnatural and against the laws of God (as in "go forth and multiply"). I've never understood how trm can be acceptable if the idea is that you shouldn't prevent nature taking it's course, apart from the possible fact that it's not really a reliable method and half the time doesn't work.

So taking temperature and counting days is natural? I don't think the 'go forth and multiply' actually means every 9 months or so, do you.

lindsay ormerod · 12-04-2005, 19:02

I have to agree that it seems crazy to not employ every means possible to prevent a population boom in the poorest countries when they are already struggling with sexually transmitted diseases;famine and in some cases civil war. God's will? I don't think so;outdated practises? More like it.

West Ender · 12-04-2005, 19:28

I'd hazard a guess that contraception was banned, originally, to ensure that the world population of Catholics increased rather than declined.

What I find unacceptable is that this is a rule made by men who are, professedly, celibate. If the church ever relaxes enough to allow its priests to marry I think the ban might be lifted. Not that it makes much difference in the Western world. Even in the most Catholic countries you don't find many large families these days.

Remember what Dave Allen said about the Rhythm Method? There's a little man with a bongo drum sitting in the corner of the room....................

WillowTheWhisp · 12-04-2005, 20:25

Like I said I don't understand why the rhythm method is acceptable when others aren't if the reason behind the non-use of condoms is because they interfere with what is natural. So also does counting and calculating. It's still contraception whichever way you look at it.

You used to find that most large families were Catholics. Nowadays if you find a large family they're probably Mormons!

Not that all Mormons have large families either. I haven't.

Neil · 12-04-2005, 22:48

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Originally Posted by West Ender

I'd hazard a guess that contraception was banned, originally, to ensure that the world population of Catholics increased rather than declined.

That is probably the only logical explanation.

chav1 · 12-04-2005, 23:20

no wonder there are so many gay priests you cant get a man pregnant so you dont get caught lol

Neil · 12-04-2005, 23:52

Its not the gay Priests that worry me. Its the pedophile ones that I cant understand. I cant understand any but Religious people. What makes it worse is the Vatican cover ups.

chav1 · 12-04-2005, 23:59

all religeons have their flaws thats why i simply dont have one i just try to live a decent as possible life and hope that if i ever meet my maker i did enough

hope my maker is a starwars fan because as of the last census i am a jedi knight lol

Neil · 13-04-2005, 00:09

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Originally Posted by chav1

hope my maker is a starwars fan because as of the last census i am a jedi knight lol

You are not alone mate. Read this.

There are 262 Jedi's in Hyndburn thats 0.3% of population as of 2001