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View Poll Results: do you think the railways should be re-nationalised
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09-03-2012, 07:49
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Re: the railways
And if we walked the torches would blow out.
Unless we could hi-jack the one they use for the olympics - that seems to burn forever.
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09-03-2012, 09:23
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Re: the railways
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Originally Posted by cashman
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you know me too well cashy
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11-03-2012, 23:46
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Re: the railways
went up to spugsters for crimbo .. bought my tickets on 3rd November ... cost £17.15 return ... thats with a disabled railcard though ... have been pricing the tickets to go up for easter ... cost £50.15 a big difference ... cost to preston with a disabled rail pass £5.15 ... had to go to preston a couple of weeks ago ..
anyway re privatise it .. seeing as the taxpayers are paying for all the improvements on the lines .. we might as well have the benefits of the high fares going back into the governments pockets ... for reinvesting in the country .. rather than going into the back pockets of the shareholders of the many companies that are running the trains .. and staying there ..
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12-03-2012, 00:00
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Re: the railways
A great folly to privatise the railways in the first place.. we were told this would create choice and competition ...users don't want competition, they just want to buy a ticket to get from A-to-B at a reasonable price.
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13-03-2012, 10:44
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Re: the railways
how would it damage the economy.it would be keeping money in the country and could be the start of an integrated transport system which would help the economy.
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13-03-2012, 10:49
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Re: the railways
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how would it damage the economy.it would be keeping money in the country and could be the start of an integrated transport system which would help the economy.
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Because it needs billions of investment, and if you hadn't noticed the readies are in very short supply at the moment and for the foreseeable future, because somebody spent it all
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13-03-2012, 11:03
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Re: the railways
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley
how would it damage the economy.it would be keeping money in the country and could be the start of an integrated transport system which would help the economy.
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The state can't simply grab the railways back.
It would have to buy them off the shareholders.
As was pointed out, many pension funds are invested in former nationalised industries.
How much do you think that would cost, and where do you suggest we get the money from?
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13-03-2012, 11:32
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Re: the railways
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Because it needs billions of investment
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Which Maggie assured us would happen after privatisation.
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13-03-2012, 12:33
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Re: the railways
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Because it needs billions of investment, and if you hadn't noticed the readies are in very short supply at the moment and for the foreseeable future, because somebody spent it all
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yor talkin rubbish they found billions for a high speed train for snobs because nobody else will be able to afford them. Railtrack goes bust with debts of 3.5bn - Telegraph sho0uld have been nationalised as they owe the public purse billions is this a success.it didnt work in america why would it work here AAA credit ratings explained | Business | guardian.co.uk a disgrace nothing short of a dictatorship .i wonder who benefited from these deals as it explains the railways were self sufficiant now we pay billions to private companies which is nothing short of theft.thats why we are short of money
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13-03-2012, 15:03
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Grand Wizard Of The Inner Clique
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yor talkin rubbish they found billions for a high speed train for snobs because nobody else will be able to afford them.
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Ah, bitterness creeping in, the age old 'haves', & 'have not's'.
These high speed trains, (had they succeeded), would still have pulled a third class carriage so that you too could travel in squaller, (standing room only whilst the 1st class carriages are empty, (you just would have stood for a little less time, (see, a win for the working classes))).
They turned out to be no good, had cost too much, causing the company to go bust rather than the Government giving them yet another useless handout.
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13-03-2012, 17:30
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Re: the railways
thats the trains in london and surrounding areas already the northern trains are a disgrace as well.what about the countryside thats going to be ripped up and im not bitter about haves and have nots i live quite comfortably train travel is up 12% last year.you would think they would like to keep encouraging if they were serious about serving the country
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13-03-2012, 18:40
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Re: the railways
hard work,and careful planning, living within my means and a bit of this and that
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13-03-2012, 18:43
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Re: the railways
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Which Maggie assured us would happen after privatisation.
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13-03-2012, 23:23
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Re: the railways
as with gas ,bt , electric.that reminds me norweb lol water as they have declared a drought in the south of england build more reseviors buy water off us in sunny scotland oh no that costs money dont want to upset the shareholders as we have a monopoly and are free to do as we want down wi the peasants down with the british as most british water is owned by foreign shareholders.
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13-03-2012, 23:32
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: the railways
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley
as with gas ,bt , electric.that reminds me norweb lol water as they have declared a drought in the south of england build more reseviors buy water off us in sunny scotland oh no that costs money dont want to upset the shareholders as we have a monopoly and are free to do as we want down wi the peasants down with the british as most british water is owned by foreign shareholders.
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Yep n forgot all the reservoirs they sold off n built houses on.
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