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View Poll Results: do you think the railways should be re-nationalised
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yes
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no
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26-07-2013, 21:33
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Re: the railways
well in the eastern line which is already nationalised can spend money replacing old British rail stock which the privatised railway company was still using its a step forward. so if the government let me bid for the franchise for I say £45 million with no proof I had the money but they subsidized the franchise for £ 45 million then the bank let me borrow money on the back of the subsidy . I then take all the profits pay the shareholders then warn the government the franchise was going bankrupt. they then pump more money into the franchise, costing the taxpayers more. official figures state it has cost £25 billion more to run the railways than when it was nationalized. i just cant see the logic it would decrease fares by 20% BBC News - Why not... nationalise the railways? this link gets near the truth
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27-07-2013, 10:38
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Re: the railways
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well in the eastern line which is already nationalised can spend money replacing old British rail stock which the privatised railway company was still using its a step forward. so if the government let me bid for the franchise for I say £45 million with no proof I had the money but they subsidized the franchise for £ 45 million then the bank let me borrow money on the back of the subsidy . I then take all the profits pay the shareholders then warn the government the franchise was going bankrupt. they then pump more money into the franchise, costing the taxpayers more. official figures state it has cost £25 billion more to run the railways than when it was nationalized. i just cant see the logic it would decrease fares by 20% BBC News - Why not... nationalise the railways? this link gets near the truth
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Why don't you give it a rest, if you like the communist lifestyle go and live in China, their way of life should suit you to a tee, but don't get too lippy or your family will be getting a bill for the bullet that shuts you up
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27-07-2013, 12:06
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no, there is cuts and people running about saying there is no money.so they must be lying if they can spend billions of pounds giving money to their hedge fund mates. it just doesn't make sense and you know it doesn't that's why you go on personal attacks instead of debating . you know you've lost the debate even a thickie like me knows you've lost the debate and your ideology has cost the country billions of pounds and your ideology is to pick on the weak and vulnerable typical jackboot tories. cmon give me the alternative of nationalization which will save billions.
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27-07-2013, 12:08
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cmon bring the debate on. ive got the facts and figures .you get yours and lets see who saves the most money for the taxpayer ..
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28-07-2013, 07:32
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Re: the railways
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cmon bring the debate on. ive got the facts and figures .you get yours and lets see who saves the most money for the taxpayer ..
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As Cashy states - " Do not argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".
Never seen you post anything like a debatable question, response or statement, only plagiarism, cut & paste and occasional links to dubious sources.
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28-07-2013, 08:23
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Re: the railways
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cmon bring the debate on. ive got the facts and figures .you get yours and lets see who saves the most money for the taxpayer ..
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Facts an d figures The Guardian is as bent and twisted as you are
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30-07-2013, 18:11
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Re: the railways
a small reminder that you can join the campaign News | Bring Back British Rail
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31-07-2013, 12:50
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Why would we want to bring back a debt ridden dinosaur, which feeds on taxpayers money and lots of it
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03-08-2013, 06:06
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your nuts ,it has cost at least yes at least £30 billion more more of taxpayers money more to run the railways privatised than it was nationalized it has increased cost 1000% since the railways were privatized and what did we get less carriages and the highest train prices in Europe. it has been a failure for the taxpayer you can be thick sometimes. even tories have admitted it look at the billions they spent on new buses in London. look at the eastern line its brought £620 million for the taxpayer and even replaced old stock from the old British rail that the private firms painted over.
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13-08-2013, 20:18
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ohhh look there goes another fare rise 4.1 %. they are trying to price the working class off the trains.
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14-08-2013, 17:33
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ohhh look there goes another fare rise 4.1 %. they are trying to price the working class off the trains.
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No just trying to keep the Jocks on the top side of the Iron Bridge.
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19-08-2013, 17:08
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Re: the railways
Is the problem with the railway the TOC's and FOC's, the government, Network Rail, the banks who buy and lease the rolling stock and/or BR & railtrack legacy?
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19-08-2013, 22:58
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No just trying to keep the Jocks on the top side of the Iron Bridge.
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Know where you can get razor ribbon, part used, some bloodstains, care must be taken installing and idiots impaling themselves should make sure they have had tetanus shots
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02-01-2014, 11:52
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ohh look another price rise. yes privatizing the railways really worked,, BBC News - Rail fare rise of 2.8% comes into effect
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07-01-2014, 11:44
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Re: the railways
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley
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You are like a broken record. Your lovely Labour government never did anything to nationalise it again.
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