The Right To Bear Arms - Page 3

Neil · 27-08-2008, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Busman747

Britain is vastly different to the USA or Canada. There are very few areas that are safe to "hunt" and even fewer species that can be "hunted."

That is only partly true. Legitimate quarry in the UK is plentiful, even if it is a little smaller than in the US.

Lilly · 27-08-2008, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Neil

No one needs to own a gun but many of us do and enjoy shooting at nothing but paper targets. What is wrong with that? If I wanted to kill you I could do it a 1001 ways without needing a gun. Do you want to ban everything that could be lethal?

The father is question is an idiot. As stated you do not leave a loaded gun unattended. Looking at the pictures I saw his garden was not suitable for shooting an air rifle in anyway.

Agreed, the father in that story is an idiot.

True, you could kill me any way you wanted to.....blimey, I shall watch out for you!

But guns were designed specifically to kill and in a maniac's hands can have devastating consequences....I don't think we should be turning a blind eye to this so that someone can continue to shoot origami.

cashman · 27-08-2008, 22:24

i bumped into some kids a couple of months ago lilly 15/16 years old in daylight another lad was asking em - to lend him a shooter, i told a couple of members at the time n following that reported it. now noway was that gun legal. its nuts to think a ban would make a differance.

Neil · 27-08-2008, 22:24

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Originally Posted by Lilly

But guns were designed specifically to kill and in a maniac's hands can have devastating consequences....I don't think we should be turning a blind eye to this so that someone can continue to shoot origami.

And javelins are just spears so shall we ban them?

What about knives? Were they a weapon or a tool first?

A rounders bat looks like a club so we best ban them as well.

Best ban rat poison while we are at it just in case you decide to cash in on your hubbys life insurance as well.

Like with anything it just comes down to how air guns are used. Would the story have been so big if the boy was injured by a smashed bottle of beer his dad had left outside?

Come to think of it glass is dangerous so we best ban it, might be a bit cold in our houses though.

Retlaw · 27-08-2008, 22:28

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Originally Posted by Lilly

I just don't think anyone needs to own a gun, that's all.

My opinion was re-inforced ( I wasn't brainwashed

) when I read a book called Never Forget, written by Mick North, father of Sophie North who was one of the children murdered in Dunblane.

The gun ownership issue is debated at some length and I agree with the author in that guns are designed to kill and people should not be allowed to own them as they cannot be sufficiently controlled.

"The gun issued was debate at some length". By whom were the N.R.A., or the B.S.S.C., allowed to take part in the debate.
Women can get very emotional if the right words are used, they even weep and get emotional over films and novels, the films are created just to do that, and the right music is supplied as well, They are only actors on celluliod its not REAL, just like those rubbishy soaps on television, its not REAL.

You cannot uninvent the gun, just as you can't uninvent the printed word, its the way people use them that matters.

Guns don't kill people - People kill people and with any thing they can get their hands on.

Retlaw.

West Ender · 27-08-2008, 22:29

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

And lots of other land owners who keep our country and the land they look after and preserve for future generations.
Do you contribute?
I'm not trying to cause an arguement in this, but why ask the Royal Family?
They pay more tax than you ever will and still look after the land they own.

Excuse me but I offered no criticism in my statement, merely a reply to the question. It's a well-documented fact that shooting is just one of their hobbies.

Incidentally, of course they pay more tax than I ever will. The difference is that I worked to earn my (taxed) small pension, which is substantially less than any Royal's inherited income, and I look after the "land" I own (my 3-bed semi) with as much conscientiousness (finances permitting) as HMQ maintains her many estates.

Mancie · 27-08-2008, 22:29

If anyone thinks weapons should be legalised then what about this bloke?

Man had a rocket launcher and four air rifles - WalesOnline

he's not gonna be shooting rabbits is he?

cashman · 27-08-2008, 22:33

doubt very much if anyone thinks guns should be legalised, i certainly don't, but neither do i think they should be banned. P.S. i have never owned a gun. apart from a diana air gun.

Neil · 27-08-2008, 22:36

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Originally Posted by cashman

doubt very much if anyone thinks guns should be legalised, i certainly don't, but neither do i think they should be banned.

I think the law should be changed back to allow the ownership of hand guns.

Since the ban gun crime as rocketed so it was obviously a pointless and very expensive exercise.

Lilly · 27-08-2008, 22:38

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

"The gun issued was debate at some length". By whom were the N.R.A., or the B.S.S.C., allowed to take part in the debate.
Women can get very emotional if the right words are used, they even weep and get emotional over films and novels, the films are created just to do that, and the right music is supplied as well, They are only actors on celluliod its not REAL, just like those rubbishy soaps on television, its not REAL.

You cannot uninvent the gun, just as you can't uninvent the printed word, its the way people use them that matters.

Guns don't kill people - People kill people and with any thing they can get their hands on.

Retlaw.

Yes, I do tend to get a tad weepy whenever schoolchildren are massacred.

Unfortunately they weren't little actors. They were REAL children in a REAL town in a REAL school shot by a REAL maniac...and there was no music to sway my unstable feminine emotions as it was a factual book I was reading.

Lilly · 27-08-2008, 22:40

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Originally Posted by cashman

i bumped into some kids a couple of months ago lilly 15/16 years old in daylight another lad was asking em - to lend him a shooter, i told a couple of members at the time n following that reported it. now noway was that gun legal. its nuts to think a ban would make a differance.

I see what you're saying Cashy.

I just think we should make gun ownership as difficult as possible.

I think it's all too easy at the moment.

In a bit it'll be harder to get hold of a packet of fags.

Royboy39 · 27-08-2008, 22:42

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Originally Posted by Neil

I think the law should be changed back to allow the ownership of hand guns.

Since the ban gun crime as rocketed so it was obviously a pointless and very expensive exercise.

Who is this funny guy....

cashman · 27-08-2008, 22:44

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Originally Posted by Lilly

I see what you're saying Cashy.

I just think we should make gun ownership as difficult as possible.

I think it's all too easy at the moment.

In a bit it'll be harder to get hold of a packet of fags.

unless things have changed lilly it aint that easy to get a gun legally, they refused cashy back in 68/69. so i never bothered.

mthead · 27-08-2008, 22:49

Anyone caught with a gun in thier possesion should get at least 30 years AND SHOULD SERVE THE SENTANCE no time off for good behaviour.I think thats where our system sucks

Mancie · 27-08-2008, 22:49

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Originally Posted by Neil

I think the law should be changed back to allow the ownership of hand guns.

Since the ban gun crime as rocketed so it was obviously a pointless and very expensive exercise.

But since then there has not been an incident were 16 children were massacred..has been said that if someone wants a gun they can get one.. but at least they are commiting an illegal act.