The Right To Bear Arms

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by Lilly

Yes, I do tend to get a tad weepy whenever schoolchildren are massacred.

Unfortunately they weren't little actors. They were REAL children in a REAL town in a REAL school shot by a REAL maniac...and there was no music to sway my unstable feminine emotions as it was a factual book I was reading.

And none of it would have happened, had the police done their job properly, when Hamilton's cerificate came up for renewal, the officer responcible took early retirement on ill health grounds shortly after.

Retlaw.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Mancie

If anyone thinks weapons should be legalised then what about this bloke?

Man had a rocket launcher and four air rifles - WalesOnline

he's not gonna be shooting rabbits is he?

From your link

A BLAENAU Gwent man has pleaded guilty to possessing five prohibited weapons without a licence, including a rocket launcher.
Newport crown court heard Brent Collins, aged 43, of Garn Terrace, Ebbw Vale, was in possession of the rocket launcher and four air rifles, which all fall under the Firearms Act and require a certificate.

The air rifles in question were over the 12 ft/lb power limit so require to be on a certificate.

Without a firearms certificate air rifles have to be under 12 ft/lbs and pistols under 6 ft/lbs.

To try and give you an idea about how powerful that is, if you were using a 12 ft/lbs air rifle for shooting rabbits the maximum recommended range for a kill is about 30m. 30m is not very far at all, take 30 paces and look how short a distance you have travelled.

Most new air rifles are only about 10 or 11 ft/lbs and pistols about 3. This is down to a couple of factors, one being the 5 years jail time you can get for owning an over powered one since the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 was introduced last year.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by cashman

. P.S. i have never owned a gun. apart from a diana air gun.

so it was you in that tunnel in france

[shakermaker]

Originally Posted by accyman

so it was you in that tunnel in france

Not funny.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Retlaw

And none of it would have happened, had the police done their job properly, when Hamilton's cerificate came up for renewal, the officer responcible took early retirement on ill health grounds shortly after.

Retlaw.

So if any other officer had taken responsabilty it would not have happened?.. why take the risk? i'ts sickening.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Mancie

But since then there has not been an incident were 16 children were massacred..has been said that if someone wants a gun they can get one.. but at least they are commiting an illegal act.

So was it legal to shoot them with a legal gun

[accyman]

Originally Posted by shakermaker

Not funny.

i beg to differ but at least you had the balls to sign you comment

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Neil

So was it legal to shoot them with a legal gun

Of course not.. but it may not have happened if the scumbag had not had easy access to guns.. guns he owned legally.. he may have flipped.. to get an illegal gun takes time.. I don't think it's as easy as some people are making out.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Of course not.. but it may not have happened if the scumbag had not had easy access to guns.. guns he owned legally.. he may have flipped.. to get an illegal gun takes time.. I don't think it's as easy as some people are making out.

He may have flipped and decided to drive has car though the shopping centre seeing how many people he could run over or maybe got his chainsaw out or a kitchen knife or a length or 3x2.

[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by Neil

He may have flipped and decided to drive has car though the shopping centre seeing how many people he could run over or maybe got his chainsaw out or a kitchen knife or a length or 3x2.

Two rusty poncakes seems to be the morm these days?

[Lilly]

Originally Posted by Neil

He may have flipped and decided to drive has car though the shopping centre seeing how many people he could run over or maybe got his chainsaw out or a kitchen knife or a length or 3x2.

The difference is that although all those things can kill they also serve other purposes. It's not practical to ban all things with the potential to kill.

Guns serve no other purpose but to kill..

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Neil

He may have flipped and decided to drive has car though the shopping centre seeing how many people he could run over or maybe got his chainsaw out or a kitchen knife or a length or 3x2.

Yep..or he might have decided to get a machine gun from his bedroom.. to easy.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Of course not.. but it may not have happened if the scumbag had not had easy access to guns.. guns he owned legally.. he may have flipped.. to get an illegal gun takes time.. I don't think it's as easy as some people are making out.

sorry disagree completely with that, guns are Very easy to obtain illegally. as easy virtually as getting some "puff" to put in context.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by cashman

sorry disagree completely with that, guns are Very easy to obtain illegally. as easy virtually as getting some "puff" to put in context.

No..have to say that is not a fact, I'm not talking from experience but to obtian a loaded hand gun or rifle is not as easy as "puff" which you can buy in most pubs.. buying a handgun has certain concequences for the seller as well as the buyer..the weapon may have been used in other crimes.. no way you can get access to a gun as Tommy Cooper would say "just like that"

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Mancie

No..have to say that is not a fact, I'm not talking from experience but to obtian a loaded hand gun or rifle is not as easy as "puff" which you can buy in most pubs.. buying a handgun has certain concequences for the seller as well as the buyer..the weapon may have been used in other crimes.. no way you can get access to a gun as Tommy Cooper would say "just like that"

believe it, if it makes ya happy.