The Swarm! - Page 10

Margaret Pilkington · 29-01-2016, 20:47

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Originally Posted by Eric

Seems to me that the issue is not refugees but the uncontrolled migration of thousands of people from the Middle East, some of whom may not be genuine. Options available: stricter controls at national borders (if there are any left in Europe

), and brass for the cash-strapped countries already sheltering refugees ... you can come up with more, not including the Auschwitz option.

I think that is a fair appraisal. Many of those coming into Europe are single men who have either destroyed their documents(maybe hoping to be accommodated in Nordic countries as an unaccompanied 'child' migrant - authorities have been told to accept them as a 'child' as long as they appear to be under 40. No medical checks or dental checks to disprove this are done for fear of being discriminatory) or are travelling on false documents.

Also the Dublin agreement is for refugees to make application for residence at the first country where landfall is made, is being totally ignored.

If refugees get to Turkey( a country where the population is largely Muslim) and far less hostile...with an understanding of the culture etc then why would refugees not settle there?

The case where the two young Syrian toddlers and their mother drowned was a case in point. They had been living in Turkey for 4 years, yet embarked on a journey to take them to Europe.
they were not refugees, but economic migrants.

Eric, I do not know what the answer is...except I do know it is not to have this large influx of middle eastern people coming to European countries and expecting to be made welcome.
The people from these countries have tribal cultures(which is why the fight to introduce democracy has been such a failure).
I feel like a foreigner in my own land. I feel as if their needs are ahead of the needs of the people who were born here.

I am being totally honest in my opinion. I am saying it how I see it and how the people that I socialise with and meet in my day to day life see it.

Mick · 30-01-2016, 07:16

Er I have put my glasses on now,so can I just point you all to the site rules and rule 13

Margaret Pilkington · 30-01-2016, 08:52

I didn't know you wore glasses Mick

Guinness · 30-01-2016, 09:50

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Originally Posted by Mick

Er I have put my glasses on now,so can I just point you all to the site rules and rule 13

As in placing 'please PM the mods' in every post

Michael1954 · 30-01-2016, 10:49

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Originally Posted by Guinness

As in placing 'please PM the mods' in every post

Hoist with his own petard.

Margaret Pilkington · 30-01-2016, 11:14

Ouch...Painful!

DaveinGermany · 31-01-2016, 12:33

Meanwhile yesterday in Dover, the right, who were ostensibly there to demonstrate for the rights & protection of our hauliers & truckerists, while the left were there for ..... well, their own agenda it seems.

EXCLUSIVE PICTURES:*Corbyn-Backed Militant Left And Neo Nazis Run Rampage Through Dover - Breitbart

looking at the pictures, those who appear to be the more intimidating & sinister all hooded & masked in black, apparently are those "Peaceable, loving lefties", the "good guys"? No, really? While those despicable racist, nazi types are at least quite easy to be picked out from the crowd especially with their funny haircuts, flags & waving arms.

I know well enough which of the above worry me the most.

Less · 31-01-2016, 12:43

All those Police vans! Do they not realise it would have been greener to ship them in on coaches like they did in the good old days of the miners strikes?
A bit of thought from the authorities and we can go back to free plastic bags at the supermarkets again. Grrrr.

DtheP47 · 31-01-2016, 15:45

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

If you do not want to report the posts which so offend you then do not complain about the mods.
The last time I looked it was against the rules to make disparaging comments about the moderators.
You may think that 'Myopic' is not a disparaging term, but it was in the context you used it.(well, that is unless you are an optician and know for a fact that ALL the mods on here need glasses to correct this condition)

So it's OK to make disparaging posts about the unfortunate flotsam and jetsam of the world then is it Margaret?

DtheP47 · 31-01-2016, 16:01

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

On the internet, I have seen this acronym used to pronounce something to be 'constipated' I suppose would be the polite word......and also for other even less savoury phrases too. Which was why I asked for clarification.

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Surfeit of turds I am thinking and that's not about the migrants knocking at the gates.

DaveinGermany · 31-01-2016, 16:28

Oy, DtP47, you was on here but didn't get back to me about my question in post 133.

A little enlightenment if you please

Margaret Pilkington · 31-01-2016, 17:43

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Originally Posted by DtheP47

So it's OK to make disparaging posts about the unfortunate flotsam and jetsam of the world then is it Margaret?

Are you not being disparaging when you call them flotsam and jetsam?

I have said in a previous post.....if you feel a post is unsuitable (for whatever reason)then report it, but you declined that advice as you wanted those who had posted such stuff to be seen as intellectually inferior. (or that is what it seemed like)
You, meantime, were making personally disparaging remarks about moderators.
If I am not mistaken this is breaking the rules of the forum.

DaveinGermany · 31-01-2016, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Are you not being disparaging when you call them flotsam and jetsam?

Think Margaret has got you pegged there DtP47.

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Originally Posted by DtheP47

about the unfortunate flotsam and jetsam of the world then is it?

A rather unfortunate choice of words there DtP, the Halo is getting a bit of a tarnish there fella.

Flotsam = people or things that have been rejected or discarded as worthless.

Jetsam = unwanted material or goods that have been thrown overboard from a ship and washed ashore, especially material that has been discarded to lighten the vessel.