The Tories

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

the tories 1981 till 1997 10,325 playing fields sold off labour 1997 till 2008 800 playing fields sold any playing field sold is wrong but their is a little comparision there

Well seeing the Wilson governments of the 60s and 70s tried to totally do away with school sports, because there ethos was "there should be no winners or losers", there was hardly nothing to do with redundant playing fields so why keep them, If the last government had any intention of reintroducing school sports why did they carry on selling, sis of one half a does of the other me thinks and anybody else with any sense.

ps best of luck next weekend when Rangers fulfill their dream of playing in England

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well seeing the Wilson governments of the 60s and 70s tried to totally do away with school sports, because there ethos was "there should be no winners or losers", there was hardly nothing to do with redundant playing fields so why keep them, If the last government had any intention of reintroducing school sports why did they carry on selling, sis of one half a does of the other me thinks and anybody else with any sense.

ps best of luck next weekend when Rangers fulfill their dream of playing in England

This is going too far ... now you are accusing Labour of selling their sisters and mutilating deer

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

This is going too far ... now you are accusing Labour of selling their sisters and mutilating deer

Well they did didn't they

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well they did didn't they

Probably ... but it don't matter; 95% of voters don't give a flying you-know-what anyway

[Eric]

Been reading in the English press that most folks don't think that the coalition will last till the next elelction. What's the take of you guys on here? I don't think it's off topic 'cause it's the actions of the tories that would have to provide the spark for the coalition's burn out.

If the Lib-Dems do decide to go their own way (if they can figure out which way that is), does that mean that there will automatically be an election; or, is it possible that the Lib-Dems and Labour could form a government? Does the law allow Cameron to call an election before his term is up?

[MargaretR]

An election is not automatic.
The tories may well struggle to get any legislation passed.

That could result in a motion of 'no confidence' which could get them out.
Motions of no confidence in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[cashman]

I think the coalition may well last the term Eric, I think fer all the differences, The Lib Dems will kiss ass fer as long as it takes to keep em in a bit of power. Thats my view anyway.

[cmonstanley]

Tory councils are biggest sellers of school playing fields | Education | The Guardian heres more proof they are bare faced liars

[Judith Addison]

Originally Posted by Eric

Been reading in the English press that most folks don't think that the coalition will last till the next elelction. What's the take of you guys on here? I don't think it's off topic 'cause it's the actions of the tories that would have to provide the spark for the coalition's burn out.

If the Lib-Dems do decide to go their own way (if they can figure out which way that is), does that mean that there will automatically be an election; or, is it possible that the Lib-Dems and Labour could form a government? Does the law allow Cameron to call an election before his term is up?

On www.parliament.uk Home page - UK Parliament it states that the Fixed Term Parliaments Act 2011 fixes the date of the next General Election at 7 May 2015, and provides for five-year fixed terms. It includes provisions to allow the Prime Minister to alter the date by up to two months by Order. There are also two ways in which an election could be triggered before the end of the five-year term:
if a motion of no confidence is passed and no alternative government is found
or if a motion for an early general election is agreed either by at least two-thirds of the House or without division

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

Tory councils are biggest sellers of school playing fields | Education | The Guardian heres more proof they are bare faced liars

from the Guardian say no more

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Judith Addison

On www.parliament.uk Home page - UK Parliament it states that the Fixed Term Parliaments Act 2011 fixes the date of the next General Election at 7 May 2015, and provides for five-year fixed terms. It includes provisions to allow the Prime Minister to alter the date by up to two months by Order. There are also two ways in which an election could be triggered before the end of the five-year term:
if a motion of no confidence is passed and no alternative government is found
or if a motion for an early general election is agreed either by at least two-thirds of the House or without division

I understand the "no confidence" thingy ... and I also assume that certain votes, the defeat of a budget for example, are probably considered automatic "no confidence" votes. But the uncertainty still exists in "If ... no alternative government is found" Seems as if a Labour/Lib-Dem coalition would constitute a viable alternative. And if Labour sees an advantage in not calling an early election they would certainly not vote for one ... and that means to "two thirds of the House" thing is out the window.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I am waiting for the campaigning for the next general election.
Normally the parties call one another ill to burn and sling mud at the party that has been in power...citing all the things they have got wrong..........I wonder if there will be some revelations about what went on with this coalition 'marriage of convenience'.

I can see the tories and the lib dems losing votes...perhaps to smaller parties like UKIP.

It is going to be an interesting time.

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by Eric

I understand the "no confidence" thingy ... and I also assume that certain votes, the defeat of a budget for example, are probably considered automatic "no confidence" votes. But the uncertainty still exists in "If ... no alternative government is found" Seems as if a Labour/Lib-Dem coalition would constitute a viable alternative. And if Labour sees an advantage in not calling an early election they would certainly not vote for one ... and that means to "two thirds of the House" thing is out the window.

The sums just didn't add up after the last election Eric, for a Labour / Lib Dem coalition. The two parties MPs together would not have been enough for an overall majority. Its no secret that a lot Lib Dems would have preferred a coalition with Labour. But it wasn't to be,it wouldn't have been sustainable.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

The sums just didn't add up after the last election Eric, for a Labour / Lib Dem coalition. The two parties MPs together would not have been enough for an overall majority. Its no secret that a lot Lib Dems would have preferred a coalition with Labour. But it wasn't to be,it wouldn't have been sustainable.

I keep forgetting the irrational fear of a minority government that exists over there.

[Mancie]

The main reason these useless tories got any sort of vote was the feckless idiots that vote for them no matter what and those who believed they would sort out our economy...they were and are wrong.. and as long as we have this knackerd government it won't get any better... BBC News - UK government borrows £600m in July as tax receipts dip

Results like this are not welcome but just imagine if they had been sprung when Gordon Brown had been in charge!