The Tories - Page 118

jaysay · 30-08-2012, 08:55

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Originally Posted by Benipete

Have you moved to Glasgow now. Shame It was OK when I worked there.

When was that

Neil · 30-08-2012, 13:45

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Originally Posted by Mancie

And that somehow makes up for the destruction of viable, productive industries and communities in this country?..for me that is a disgusting attitude and just goes to show the hell bent ideology you and most tories adhere to.

Its ok saying that and I agree with you but Labour did nothing to reverse the problems. They just carried on and let it happen

garinda · 30-08-2012, 17:02

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Originally Posted by Neil

Its ok saying that and I agree with you but Labour did nothing to reverse the problems. They just carried on and let it happen

That doesn't show a balanced assesment of what happened in reality.

Now you'll just be labelled by the blind party faithful as a Tory propogandist, whose politics are to the right of Oswald Mosley.

jaysay · 30-08-2012, 17:54

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Originally Posted by Neil

Its ok saying that and I agree with you but Labour did nothing to reverse the problems. They just carried on and let it happen

And piled more misery on the people of this country, increasing PFI on building hospitals, the NHS now spend 14% of their budgets before thinking about treating patients, but Mancie and co never mention that, nor £43 billion in interest on outstanding debts, that before paying back what was borrowed in the first place, Hell I could live in mansion in its own grounds and drive a roller, on borrowed money, but if you borrow you've got to pay it back whether your a private individual or a government

Neil · 30-08-2012, 18:03

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Originally Posted by garinda

That doesn't show a balanced assesment of what happened in reality.

Now you'll just be labelled by the blind party faithful as a Tory propogandist, whose politics are to the right of Oswald Mosley.

Ah but I have proof I am not a Tory, a Labour councillor was savaged this afternoon in the Pet Warehouse by my Beagles fierce tongue

garinda · 30-08-2012, 18:19

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Originally Posted by Neil

Ah but I have proof I am not a Tory, a Labour councillor was savaged this afternoon in the Pet Warehouse by my Beagles fierce tongue

I didn't know you'd started making those dodgy videos again.

I would need to know which councillor's in it, before you can flog me a copy.

The one you did before, 'BBW versus Billy Goat Gruff', was a classic.

Wasn't she a councillor or something?

jaysay · 30-08-2012, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Neil

Ah but I have proof I am not a Tory, a Labour councillor was savaged this afternoon in the Pet Warehouse by my Beagles fierce tongue

Ya mean it didn't bite him/her

Neil · 30-08-2012, 22:22

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya mean it didn't bite him/her

My dog is the softest mutt ever, you are quite likely to trip up over her in the park though when she is playing with her other doggy friends.

As for dog videos I did post one of facebook a while ago when she tried to catch geese in Jack House res

BERNADETTE · 30-08-2012, 23:11

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Originally Posted by Neil

Its ok saying that and I agree with you but Labour did nothing to reverse the problems. They just carried on and let it happen

But will you get the "faithful" voters of either side to admit that both the "major" parties in this country are equally to blame for the mess that has been created? Think we all know the answer to that one apart from our "leaders"

cashman · 30-08-2012, 23:20

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

But will you get the "faithful" voters of either side to admit that both the "major" parties in this country are equally to blame for the mess that has been created? Think we all know the answer to that one apart from our "leaders"

I was a faithful voter fer decades, until i saw the light n accepted the fact theres very little difference between em nowadays, These days i have scant regard fer faithful voters, in fact regard em as idiots.

BERNADETTE · 30-08-2012, 23:33

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Originally Posted by cashman

I was a faithful voter fer decades, until i saw the light n accepted the fact theres very little difference between em nowadays, These days i have scant regard fer faithful voters, in fact regard em as idiots.

Yeah but there are a few members who just can't see what the rest of us can see. Would go as far as to say our elected "members" who were so vocal before being in power are now very quiet in their opinions and promises as to what would and funnily enough has/is not happening now their party is in power

Mancie · 30-08-2012, 23:37

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

But will you get the "faithful" voters of either side to admit that both the "major" parties in this country are equally to blame for the mess that has been created? Think we all know the answer to that one apart from our "leaders"

Yes.. so if there is a situation were only those two parties have any chance of taking control then it sometimes boils down to voting for the party you consider the lesser of two evils..or maybe don't vote at all.

Lucysgirl · 31-08-2012, 12:34

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Originally Posted by Mancie

And that somehow makes up for the destruction of viable, productive industries and communities in this country?..for me that is a disgusting attitude and just goes to show the hell bent ideology you and most tories adhere to.

British Industries are NOT viable if the BRITISH people don't buy their wares. Governments don't close factories; loss of orders, cash flow and high overheads not being met because workers are on strike are the reasons. Back in the 70s there used to be a shop steward frequent the same watering hole - a fervent Labourite and union member he strongly believed in demarkation, stoppages and go slows to protect his workers from his manufacturing employers. Those jobs were the only jobs he 'protected' as all his clothes were foreign and so was the car he drove - if I'd looked around his home I've also no doubt it would have been furnished with cheap foreign imports. I've no doubt that he, just like the majority of Brits were blindly destroying the manufacturing heritage of this country.

Claytoner40 · 31-08-2012, 17:35

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Originally Posted by Lucysgirl

British Industries are NOT viable if the BRITISH people don't buy their wares. Governments don't close factories; loss of orders, cash flow and high overheads not being met because workers are on strike are the reasons. Back in the 70s there used to be a shop steward frequent the same watering hole - a fervent Labourite and union member he strongly believed in demarkation, stoppages and go slows to protect his workers from his manufacturing employers. Those jobs were the only jobs he 'protected' as all his clothes were foreign and so was the car he drove - if I'd looked around his home I've also no doubt it would have been furnished with cheap foreign imports. I've no doubt that he, just like the majority of Brits were blindly destroying the manufacturing heritage of this country.

I touched on this in another thread but touched on the fact (with some tongue in cheek) that civil servants especially should buy British. The government hasn't killed British industry the British citizen has

cashman · 31-08-2012, 17:38

So lack of investment in industry by owners played no part at all?

Thats summat yehs aint touched on, Hardly a shock though.