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31-08-2012, 17:43
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Re: The Tories
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Originally Posted by cashman
So lack of investment in industry by owners played no part at all? Thats summat yehs aint touched on, Hardly a shock though.
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I think owners, as you put it decide to curtail investing in industry, back in the sixties and seventies, when there were mass strikes very nearly every week, they decided their money would be better invested in countries who weren't in the straight jacket of the communist lead Trade Unions
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31-08-2012, 17:46
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: The Tories
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Originally Posted by jaysay
I think owners, as you put it decide to curtail investing in industry, back in the sixties and seventies, when there were mass strikes very nearly every week, they decided their money would be better invested in countries who weren't in the straight jacket of the communist lead Trade Unions
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Well i would expect that rubbish from you, Mill owners were told n told in the 50s what would happen, but being like yerself ignored the fact.
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31-08-2012, 17:53
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Re: The Tories
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Well i would expect that rubbish from you, Mill owners were told n told in the 50s what would happen, but being like yerself ignored the fact.
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The cotton industry just couldn't compete with cheap imports from the far east, no matter how much money was pumped into the mills. Cloth in the far east was being produced at less than, 10% of the cost over here, but you don't like the true facts
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01-09-2012, 01:57
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Re: The Tories
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So lack of investment in industry by owners played no part at all? Thats summat yehs aint touched on, Hardly a shock though.
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My other half and I set up our own manufacturing & installation company in 1972 after he was demobbed and I shouldn't have to tell you that unions wouldn't allow companies to modernise because new machinery meant loss of jobs for union members. I know of one national company which hid new standings under a layer of concrete whilst some other health and safety building work was being carried out; then, during the Accrington annual holiday shut down, the thin top layer of concrete was removed exposing the standings and the new plant was installed.
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01-09-2012, 08:58
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Re: The Tories
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My other half and I set up our own manufacturing & installation company in 1972 after he was demobbed and I shouldn't have to tell you that unions wouldn't allow companies to modernise because new machinery meant loss of jobs for union members. I know of one national company which hid new standings under a layer of concrete whilst some other health and safety building work was being carried out; then, during the Accrington annual holiday shut down, the thin top layer of concrete was removed exposing the standings and the new plant was installed.
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Shoshhhhhhh Lucy they don't want us to here that
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01-09-2012, 09:15
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: The Tories
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Shoshhhhhhh Lucy they don't want us to here that
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Well aware of stuff that went on in the 70s, I mentioned lack of investment in the 50s, well before the unions had the power, Summat the likes of Lucy n you don't choose to hear. But still a Torys a Tory.
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01-09-2012, 09:26
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Re: The Tories
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Well aware of stuff that went on in the 70s, I mentioned lack of investment in the 50s, well before the unions had the power, Summat the likes of Lucy n you don't choose to hear. But still a Torys a Tory.
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And a blind socialist is still a blind socialist
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01-09-2012, 09:30
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Re: The Tories
Don't you agree never to disagree, when you sign up, and join the clique?
They'll be black balling you two.
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01-09-2012, 09:35
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: The Tories
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Don't you agree never to disagree, when you sign up, and join the clique?
They'll be black balling you two.
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Its sad really,some of the more deluded members think i protect people. still if that theory suits there purpose.
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01-09-2012, 09:49
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Re: The Tories
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Its sad really,some of the more deluded members think i protect people. still if that theory suits there purpose.
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Agreed.
Can never see much evidence of a clique on here.
A unified body?
Speaking as one voice?
Nah.
Some right old ding-dongs, even amongst the oldest of forum members.
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01-09-2012, 10:01
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Re: The Tories
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Agreed.
Can never see much evidence of a clique on here.
A unified body?
Speaking as one voice?
Nah.
Some right old ding-dongs, even amongst the oldest of forum members.
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Ya its a bit like a boxing match really ya knock seven bells out of one another then go for a pint afterwards
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01-09-2012, 10:33
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Re: The Tories
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Ya its a bit like a boxing match really ya knock seven bells out of one another then go for a pint afterwards
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The idiots who accuse us of being in some sort of cahoots, obviously never read the Accy Observer.
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01-09-2012, 10:36
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Re: The Tories
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The idiots who accuse us of being in some sort of cahoots, obviously never read the Accy Observer.
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Or even Accy Web.
Up until you tore up your Conservative party membership card...and I tore up Graham Jones.
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01-09-2012, 10:43
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Re: The Tories
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Or even Accy Web.
Up until you tore up your Conservative party membership card...and I tore up Graham Jones.
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Ya those were the days
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01-09-2012, 13:13
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Re: The Tories
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Originally Posted by cashman
Well aware of stuff that went on in the 70s, I mentioned lack of investment in the 50s, well before the unions had the power, Summat the likes of Lucy n you don't choose to hear. But still a Torys a Tory.
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I worked for an engineering company in the 1950s when the standard rate of tax on all income was 47.5% and the higher rate was 99%. We exported 78% of our products and although I don't know what the gross sales income was I assume the company paid the full whack of 99% on its net income. The company invested in people - they provided playing fields & equiupment, team uniforms, tennis courts, paid for further education and looked after its pensioners.
I've always thought the drawback to modernising our own factories, is that we sold much of our old machinery abroad and taught the new owners how to use it, which meant that there was much more competition, cheaper competition, for us in the world's market place. Additionally; don't forget quite a few blueprints of our old cars went to countries which hadn't got a history of designing and manufacturing cars.
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