The Tories - Page 12

Margaret Pilkington · 06-06-2011, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Mancie

The comparison to Thatcher is as far as you regard cuts as the best way to recovery .. I don't.. and that is all.

Again....I didn't actually say that.
I said that we couldn't buy what we couldn't afford. I didn't say I approved of the cuts.

cmonstanley · 06-06-2011, 20:52

the imf has downgraded the growth for britain but says the goverments policies are right. dont make sense.

Margaret Pilkington · 06-06-2011, 20:52

And you can't explain away your insult in such a blase fashion either.

Margaret Pilkington · 06-06-2011, 20:54

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

the imf has downgraded the growth for britain but says the goverments policies are right. dont make sense.

It would be useless to explain it to you. Mancie would think I was lecturing again!
If I could lecture, I'd be doing it for money.

Mancie · 06-06-2011, 21:03

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

And you can't explain away your insult in such a blase fashion either.

Do you regard it an insult when I compare you to Thatcher?... why is that?.. she had the same sort of outlook you seem to have.. as in cuts to everything are a necessity we all have to suffer because of the last government..anyone alive in the 80's knew that as a basic policiy of the tories..you seem to agree with that policiy so why should you think it as an insult?

cmonstanley · 06-06-2011, 21:05

now the imf are telling the goverment to cut taxes. i think everyones been a bit premature in listening to the lazy journalists in this country

so here whats been said economic growth downgraded ,cut taxes but hey increasing poverty for people who are working is ok

temporary tax cuts inject money borrow more thats what the imf really said sounds familiar

cmonstanley · 06-06-2011, 21:15

when you look at this chart it seems weve all been victims of scaremongering lying lazy press

Mancie · 06-06-2011, 21:16

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

now the imf are telling the goverment to cut taxes. i think everyones been a bit premature in listening to the lazy journalists in this country

so here whats been said economic growth downgraded ,cut taxes but hey increasing poverty for people who are working is ok

temporary tax cuts inject money borrow more thats what the imf really said sounds familiar

Tax cuts have always been used to create growth in the economy and could be used again..tax cuts cause even more inflation.. at this time I think it would be a good idea.. but this lot should look at cutting the 20% VAT.. and cutting tax on fuel and domestic use..I don't think they will do it because the only agenda is to let prices rocket and hope for the best.. same as usuall.

walkinman221 · 06-06-2011, 21:42

To be fair to margaret i think you need a visit to specsavers because you seem to be reading something totally different to what i am seeing.She seems to be saying that the policies being implemented are the right ones for the situation we find ourselves in , which is a different kettle of fish to all out support for the present government, whoever happened to be in power at this time would have to be doing something similar to try and pull us from the mire , whether they be tory, labour whatever.And before you think i am a blue or red supporter i would like to say i too have no time for any of them really ,i wouldnt trust any of them as far as i could throw them.

cashman · 06-06-2011, 21:48

gotta agree wi walkinman, in all his comment.

Margaret Pilkington · 06-06-2011, 21:53

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Do you regard it an insult when I compare you to Thatcher?... why is that?.. she had the same sort of outlook you seem to have.. as in cuts to everything are a necessity we all have to suffer because of the last government..anyone alive in the 80's knew that as a basic policiy of the tories..you seem to agree with that policiy so why should you think it as an insult?

Mancie, you are entitled to your opinion.
I don't know how you can judge my outlook...you fail to grasp what it is.
Unless, of course because I criticise the last government you make the assumption that I am in favour of everything that this government(which by the way is not just Tory...it has Lib Dem elements in it...but silly me.....am I lecturing again?)does.
You are sadly deluded. I distrust all politicians. I question what they are doing and why. I read as many newspapers(of all persuasions) as I can.
I think and reason for myself. I do not follow narrow political dogma's or ideologies.
And I can be insulted by your comparing me to Mrs Thatcher because it indicates that you do not believe any of the information I have told you about my lack of political affiliation.
You continue to read into my posts what is not there.
If you took off your pink spectacles you might do better.

Margaret Pilkington · 06-06-2011, 21:59

By the way Mancie, putting a smilie after a contentious or insulting comment doesn't make it feel any less insulting.

Mancie · 06-06-2011, 22:10

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Originally Posted by walkinman221

To be fair to margaret i think you need a visit to specsavers because you seem to be reading something totally different to what i am seeing.She seems to be saying that the policies being implemented are the right ones for the situation we find ourselves in , which is a different kettle of fish to all out support for the present government, whoever happened to be in power at this time would have to be doing something similar to try and pull us from the mire , whether they be tory, labour whatever.And before you think i am a blue or red supporter i would like to say i too have no time for any of them really ,i wouldnt trust any of them as far as i could throw them.

And that is were we differ..I don't think the present policies of cut slash burn are good for the future of this country whichever way it is looked at.. some one once said you can judge a country on how they treat the old and sick.. the cuts this government are imposing will affect the old and sick.. to my mind there is not much room to move.. we either take care of our less well off or go headlong into cuts that will destroy the NHS, destroy the already underfunded social care facilities and could wipe out any form of local care.. now can you defend that?

walkinman221 · 06-06-2011, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Mancie

And that is were we differ..I don't think the present policies of cut slash burn are good for the future of this country whichever way it is looked at.. some one once said you can judge a country on how they treat the old and sick.. the cuts this government are imposing will affect the old and sick.. to my mind there is not much room to move.. we either take care of our less well off or go headlong into cuts that will destroy the NHS, destroy the already underfunded social care facilities and could wipe out any form of local care.. now can you defend that?

You tell me what Labour would do then ????? And would it be all that different and be honest!

Mancie · 06-06-2011, 22:27

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Originally Posted by walkinman221

You tell me what Labour would do then ????? And would it be all that different and be honest!

No..labour have gone and to keep harking back is not good enough..you tell me what this government will do ?