The Tories - Page 13

walkinman221 · 06-06-2011, 22:31

Its not what they would do its what they are doing rightly or wrongly remains to be seen.And you seem to think wrongly son what would your favourites do???

cashman · 06-06-2011, 22:46

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Originally Posted by walkinman221

Its not what they would do its what they are doing rightly or wrongly remains to be seen.

Thats nailed it- remains to be seen, my personal opinion is they are cocking it up big time, but thats all it is- my opinion, only time will tell,

Mancie · 06-06-2011, 22:50

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Originally Posted by walkinman221

Its not what they would do its what they are doing rightly or wrongly remains to be seen.And you seem to think wrongly son what would your favourites do???

My favourite is anyhing that is not tory.. if you take a look at the political history of this country maybe it will open your eyes.. the tories have done zip ...in over 200yrs they have opposed votes for women, child labour laws, education for all, the NHS, pensions,equal gay rights,.. it's not hard for me to have a favourite when it comes to the government of this country

cashman · 06-06-2011, 23:10

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Originally Posted by Mancie

My favourite is anyhing that is not tory.. if you take a look at the political history of this country maybe it will open your eyes.. the tories have done zip ...in over 200yrs they have opposed votes for women, child labour laws, education for all, the NHS, pensions,equal gay rights,.. it's not hard for me to have a favourite when it comes to the government of this country

thats pretty accurate, shame they became ******* just like the tories.

Alan Varrechia · 06-06-2011, 23:14

They need these policies so that the rich don't lose to much for to long, and they don't give a fig for the poor and underprivileged. Just as long as it get's back to them making pots as quickly as poss.
Thats just the way i see it through my poor eyes but fairly intelligent brain.
It's nothing to do with which politcal party does what, but down to personal wealth and how to hang on to it.

Right that's my two penneth.

BERNADETTE · 06-06-2011, 23:52

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Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia

They need these policies so that the rich don't lose to much for to long, and they don't give a fig for the poor and underprivileged. Just as long as it get's back to them making pots as quickly as poss.
Thats just the way i see it through my poor eyes but fairly intelligent brain.
It's nothing to do with which politcal party does what, but down to personal wealth and how to hang on to it.

Right that's my two penneth.

Well said young man, truth be told you summed it up in that post

Mancie · 07-06-2011, 00:47

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Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia

They need these policies so that the rich don't lose to much for to long, and they don't give a fig for the poor and underprivileged. Just as long as it get's back to them making pots as quickly as poss.
Thats just the way i see it through my poor eyes but fairly intelligent brain.
It's nothing to do with which politcal party does what, but down to personal wealth and how to hang on to it.

Right that's my two penneth.

Very true.. and no need to seek more further than the Ossie bod who has benifited more than any other man in the western world from labours chucking money policey at social care.home visits free transport ..all paid for.. but now makes the case that all these "benifits" should be stopped..typical tory

garinda · 07-06-2011, 07:39

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

See...you are doing it again......Unless of course the text you are reading is different to what I posted.
Nowhere did I say that I think this government will do a better job than the last one.

If i talk to you like you a little child(a kid is a baby goat) who understands nothing about economics, then that might have something to do with the demonstration of your understanding in your posts.

If you showed some sense instead of just spouting political dogma then perhaps things might be different.
And just because I remind you of Margaret Thatcher does not mean that I am like her.
I'm not sure if I should be flattered or insulted. How about if I let you choose?

I'd take the Margaret Thatcher analogy as a compliment.

As much as I detested her politics, she was her own person, took no bull from anyone, and was certainly no one's poodle.

Unlike some of the silly pups on here. Whose bark always mimics their political Master's Voice.

garinda · 07-06-2011, 07:47

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Originally Posted by Mancie

My favourite is anyhing that is not tory.. if you take a look at the political history of this country maybe it will open your eyes.. the tories have done zip ...in over 200yrs they have opposed votes for women, child labour laws, education for all, the NHS, pensions,equal gay rights,.. it's not hard for me to have a favourite when it comes to the government of this country

Oh, how super.

Mancie supports gay rights.

Even if he's prone to come out with homophobic abuse, when he can't think of a better argument in a debate.

garinda · 07-06-2011, 07:52

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Very true.. and no need to seek more further than the Ossie bod who has benifited more than any other man in the western world from labours chucking money policey at social care.home visits free transport ..all paid for.. but now makes the case that all these "benifits" should be stopped..typical tory

Who's that?

Bit hard for them to agree, or disagree, if you don't name them.

jaysay · 07-06-2011, 08:56

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Originally Posted by garinda

Who's that?

Bit hard for them to agree, or disagree, if you don't name them.

I'm glad you posted a quote Garinda, highlighting what London's Left Wing Clown is posting, I long since put him on my ignore list. But it does beg the question, how some one in London can know so much about another persons lifestyle, or what benefits they are on. I can't actually remember too many people put their life story on here for the world and his wife to read about, I for one have never or will every post anything on here with regards to my personal circumstances apart from the fact, which is well documented that I have serious health problems. The only way people can find out about my personal circumstance is if there is a mole in HBCs benefits department, that could happen surely

Margaret Pilkington · 07-06-2011, 09:35

Well John...I write a blog. Not that I think Mancie has ever read it. It would give him some insight into the person I am, if he did read it.....it would allow him to see that I am not a bit like Margaret Thatcher in my outlook, but I am a strong woman...because I have had to be...he would also know that I am principled too.
He actually doesn't care much anyway...if you aren't for the Labour flag then you are obviously against it.
What he forgets is that the Labour party today does not equate with the Labour party of the 70's and 80's. It was the Socialist party back then...not a paler version of the tory party it is now. The Tony Blair government was tory in all but name.
This my cue to bow out of this discussion.....I get fed up of talking round in circles.

jaysay · 07-06-2011, 09:47

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Well John...I write a blog. Not that I think Mancie has ever read it. It would give him some insight into the person I am, if he did read it.....it would allow him to see that I am not a bit like Margaret Thatcher in my outlook, but I am a strong woman...because I have had to be...he would also know that I am principled too.
He actually doesn't care much anyway...if you aren't for the Labour flag then you are obviously against it.
What he forgets is that the Labour party today does not equate with the Labour party of the 70's and 80's. It was the Socialist party back then...not a paler version of the tory party it is now. The Tony Blair government was Tory in all but name.
This my cue to bow out of this discussion.....I get fed up of talking round in circles.

As I've said I got fed up with mad mancie ages ago, so I put him on my ignored list, the only way to deal with a bigot, works for me

walkinman221 · 07-06-2011, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Mancie

My favourite is anyhing that is not tory.. if you take a look at the political history of this country maybe it will open your eyes.. the tories have done zip ...in over 200yrs they have opposed votes for women, child labour laws, education for all, the NHS, pensions,equal gay rights,.. it's not hard for me to have a favourite when it comes to the government of this country

Open my eyes to what? That the tories look after the rich and keep the serfs under the cosh, i know this thank you. You seem to think if someone doesnt agree with you that they are a tory, this in my case is not true as i have already said i have no time for any party. The labour party is no longer a force for the working man and in my opinion has morphed into something akin to a slightly watered down tory clone.The measures being used by this government are draconion i admit and could be wrong that remains to be seen as both cashy and myself have said,but the people to blame are the previous encumbents of number 10 and the bankers they gave free rein too if you cant see that then your more colour blind than i thought.And again i ask what would a labour government do to rectifie this situation if not cutting spending and their borrowing??

cashman · 08-06-2011, 22:27

Problem wi the measures this lot propose, like the NHS, the Sentencing of Rapists, they are demonstrating to me, they aint a sodding clue, they propose these things- big outcry- climb down n change tack, its off the hoof government nowt else.

hope they dont cripple the country even more,cos they sure seem to be sticking wi the economic way.