The Tories

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

£4000 less for the police

£4000 doesn't sound much, that's basically two coppers not being allowed to work overtime for a month.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

the party of law and order yep thats the tories £4000 less for the police and the truth of the big lie is here http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article37845.html

What you fail to mention is that the land of Uk is not the only country facing escalating costs for policing and public safety. The yanks have the same problem, and so do we. Some of the things that coppers have to do are a waste of time and money. The idiotic "War on Drugs" comes to mind.

Here's what's happ'nin in Canada:

The exploding cost of policing in Canada - Canada - CBC News

The article actually has some positive things to say about how the Brits are dealing with the problem.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

What you fail to mention is that the land of Uk is not the only country facing escalating costs for policing and public safety. The yanks have the same problem, and so do we. Some of the things that coppers have to do are a waste of time and money. The idiotic "War on Drugs" comes to mind.

Here's what's happ'nin in Canada:

The exploding cost of policing in Canada - Canada - CBC News

The article actually has some positive things to say about how the Brits are dealing with the problem.

Don't mind C'mon Eric he lives in his own "I hate the Tories Bubble" with blinkers on, never mentioning once the abortion of a Government they have had to follow, remember Liam Bern's little note left on his desk in the treasury, sorry there's no money left we've spent it all

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Don't mind C'mon Eric he lives in his own "I hate the Tories Bubble" with blinkers on, never mentioning once the abortion of a Government they have had to follow, remember Liam Bern's little note left on his desk in the treasury, sorry there's no money left we've spent it all

I don't mind C'mon ... in fact, I myself can't stand tories: The only good tory is a suppository But, I do try to stay away from the blinkers.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

I don't mind C'mon ... in fact, I myself can't stand tories: The only good tory is a suppository But, I do try to stay away from the blinkers.

I can't stand socialism myself it promises so much yet gives nothing in return

[Neil]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

the party of law and order yep thats the tories £4000 less for the police and the truth of the big lie is here http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article37845.html

Its £4k less for new people in the job. That is just about how much new people taken on doing my role will get. Its happening in many places not just the Police. They wont be getting a pay cut

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Neil

Its £4k less for new people in the job. That is just about how much new people taken on doing my role will get. Its happening in many places not just the Police. They wont be getting a pay cut

Don't think it applies to Cmons Job of sweeping up Neil

[Neil]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Don't think it applies to Cmons Job of sweeping up Neil

I can't remember him saying what his job is

[cmonstanley]

.i would like somebody who puts their life on the line to be paid properly.what about the 24 year old inspectors they want jobs for their boys

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I can't stand socialism myself it promises so much yet gives nothing in return

I can't stand toryism myself it promises so little, and delivers less than nothing Oh, unless of course you are wealthy.

[Margaret Pilkington]

The problem is, that the lines that used to differentiate the political parties have got so blurred in recent years, that even a labour government(called New Labour) was a shade of mauve, there is no such thing as socialism anymore....politicians are not in the job to ensure their constituents get a good deal(or even a fair deal), that their voice is listened to, that their wishes are heeded...they are in the job because it is a lifelong career, one which they can line their pockets, at our expense, live high on the hog while all the rest of us struggle to pay the bills.
One rule for them and another one for the rest of us. Democracy is a joke. If voting really changed anything they would stop us from doing it.

[Barrie Yates]

Does anyone know how long an MP have to serve before they get an MP's pension, and what sort of pension do they get?

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

The problem is, that the lines that used to differentiate the political parties have got so blurred in recent years, that even a labour government(called New Labour) was a shade of mauve, there is no such thing as socialism anymore....politicians are not in the job to ensure their constituents get a good deal(or even a fair deal), that their voice is listened to, that their wishes are heeded...they are in the job because it is a lifelong career, one which they can line their pockets, at our expense, live high on the hog while all the rest of us struggle to pay the bills.
One rule for them and another one for the rest of us. Democracy is a joke. If voting really changed anything they would stop us from doing it.

If this were the conspiracy theory thread, one might be tempted to argue that the pollicy of Thatcher's tories was to destroy the working class in order to wipe out Labour's support base Similar to the strategy of von Falkenhayn at Verdun: render untenable the position of the British Army by bleeding the French army white.

[cmonstanley]

they did try cleansing in westminster but got caught this is not new labour ,its one nation labour get with the times

[davebtelford]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Does anyone know how long an MP have to serve before they get an MP's pension, and what sort of pension do they get?

I think they get a pension based on whatever time they served -

"A Member building up benefits at an accrual rate of 1/50th of salary would need some 33 years and 4 months service for a full MP’s pension. Those contributing a higher percentage of earnings will need a shorter period of pensionable service to reach the maximum.

An MP serving the average term of office of 15 years, paying contributions at 11.9% of pensionable pay (and, therefore, accruing benefits at a rate of 1/40th) would accrue a pension of around £22,500 pa (about 1/3rd of an MP’s pay). The average pension in payment from the scheme is around £18,000 pa."