The Tories

[garinda]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

no matter how you twist i havent mentioned labour,and if people are still trying to blame the last goverment how come 50% of tory policy has been u turned and ttheyve sent more than a billion pound abroad

Originally Posted by garinda

Self-pitying, as well as boring in the extreme.

[DaveinGermany]

Tell you what, let's start from scratch shall we ? You insist you haven't mentioned Labour fine, but all your arguments have been against the coalition, but to suit your purposes you've used the expression Tories/Cameron etc, etc thereby confirming your revulsion of all things Tory. The fact that it's a coalition running the country means their partners should also come in for derision & on occasion you've done so thereby also confirming your contempt for the Libdems & Clegg.

So by simple elementary deduction you are howling with indignation from a Labour standpoint ! Am I wrong ? Therefore to counter your limp arguments examples of Labour ineptitude & incompetence are held up as vindication to balance the argument (are you still managing to comprehend ?)

Where some possible confusion (on your part not mine) could have arisen is in your statement
"it gets more idiotic by the day replacing british pilots with foriegn ones i just dont get it talking about cheap labour this takes the biscuit Sacked RAF pilots replaced by foreign personnel - Telegraph "
Here you use the word Labour but in the context of work & not politics my reply to which was
"What cheap labour ? The courses are being filled by other nations & they're paying, it'd be the same as you crossing the border to take driving lessons (read the article)."Also using the work context in this instance so you see I haven't used labour in the political sense so any twisting is of your own doing. Now we're bang up to date can we now maybe carry on with a sensible discussion ?

[cmonstanley]

ok start from scratch the last labour goverment werent perfect.

[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

ok start from scratch the last labour goverment werent perfect.

Sounds like now you are after a place in Noddy's shadow set up?

[Mancie]

Yes start from scratch... the thread was posted to highlight and debate the deficiencies of the present government...and most of the replies are more or less "Labour are worse" and such.
And so after over 240 posts (admited many of which are one line links) can we get back to slagging off this government?..or maybe someone should start a thread on how bad the last lot were!

[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Yes start from scratch... the thread was posted to highlight and debate the deficiencies of the present government...and most of the replies are more or less "Labour are worse" and such.
And so after over 240 posts (admited many of which are one line links) can we get back to slagging off this government?..or maybe someone should start a thread on how bad the last lot were!

I don't think there is enough memory on the site to start that one

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Royboy39

I don't think there is enough memory on the site to start that one

Well it's all down to cuts Roy.. cuts and more cuts.. that's the tory way

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Yes start from scratch... the thread was posted to highlight and debate the deficiencies of the present government...and most of the replies are more or less "Labour are worse" and such.
And so after over 240 posts (admited many of which are one line links) can we get back to slagging off this government?..or maybe someone should start a thread on how bad the last lot were!

Mancie, you did tempt fate somewhat by mentioning "the last lot" in your opening post! From then on, the floodgates were open...

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Mancie, you did tempt fate somewhat by mentioning "the last lot" in your opening post! From then on, the floodgates were open...

The floodgates were open from the first post.. I knew that

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

Who were you referring to, since you posted 'you', but didn't quote anyone?

Jaysay, since you posted directly after him?

Is this the caring face of the political left?

Castigating his ability to work, because he can't, through serious ill health?

Whilst 'you' have to work until sixty eight.

Unless you have a crystal ball, count your blessings if you're still here at sixty eight, and able to work. No one knows what's around the corner in this life.

A true socialist, of which you're not one, would happily work, if they were fit and able, in order to provide for those in genuine need, who could no longer earn a living because of illness.

Like I said, your measly, whingingly selfish attitude has more in common with Thatcherism, than it has to the ideals of true socialism.

Self-pitying, as well as boring in the extreme.

Well done.

No comment?

Confirming this attack was aimed ay Jaysay?

The silence speaks volumes, sadly.

You carry on posting your comfortingly lazy links.

www.sameoldboringtripe.com

[Neil]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

I know & I reported myself to get one removed, seems our usually eagle eyed wiper outer team are having an extended tea break ! But I'm sure they'll be along presently.

I was in Blackpool with my family doing obscene things to Wossy

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

the last labour goverment werent perfect.

At last ! Some common sense & an acceptance of facts.

Originally Posted by Mancie

the thread was posted to highlight and debate the deficiencies of the present government...

can we get back to slagging off this government?..

Mancie, I'm rather surprised "Present Government" ??? Not Tories ? Are you at last accepting the fact that we have a Coalition in power ?

Marvellous, but if you hadn't been so intentionally inflammatory with your title "The Tories" & initial statement (just a quick reminder) "Anyting they do is a cock up..." perhaps the following 200+ posts wouldn't have been so acrimonious & degenerated into a slanging match about who's worse.

I agree that some of the decisions made by those in power have been atrocious & in all honesty can't see the benefit to the British people, but these measures have been brought about by the present Coalition Government due to the failings & weaknesses of past (I don't just mean labour also the Tories before them) poorly led & mediocre parties. Had we had some Politicians of strength, determined resolve & backbone the UK would definitely not be the miserable little Island it is now sitting in the shadow of Europe & America.

The once renowned Bulldog spirit of the British people, which at one time saw us controlling half the world & its resources, defend against major tyranny twice in the 20th Century with the associated loss to our Countries future due to the sacrifice of our military men, has gradually aided the decline of the Great British way of life & in the later more (peaceful ?) part of the 20th Century our gains & pride have been further eroded by self serving career politicians of all stripes. Therein lies the true failings of the UK, its feeble subservient political classes & until they are eradicated the UK will slip further into the mire !

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

No comment?

Confirming this attack was aimed ay Jaysay?

The silence speaks volumes, sadly.

You carry on posting your comfortingly lazy links.

www.sameoldboringtripe.com

Can't find your original rant but I'll answer

Is this the caring face of the political left?

Castigating his ability to work, because he can't, through serious ill health?

Whilst 'you' have to work until sixty eight.

Unless you have a crystal ball, count your blessings if you're still here at sixty eight, and able to work. No one knows what's around the corner in this life.

A true socialist, of which you're not one, would happily work, if they were fit and able, in order to provide for those in genuine need, who could no longer earn a living because of illness.

Like I said, your measly, whingingly selfish attitude has more in common with Thatcherism, than it has to the ideals of true socialism.

Self-pitying, as well as boring in the extreme.

Well done.

Every man or women in this country should have proper care when needed and I'd say people in that position should be given more help both financial and medical .. .if that means higher taxes or if the country needs to borrow to help our own when they need it so be it I have no problem.

I do have a problem when people who took full advantage of the benifits that were in real terms increased after 1997 are now keen on the idea that this government should cut the income of the less well off (wether it be the low paid, those on benifits or tax credits) ..of a sudden it seems we have been spending to much on are ill people and the old or infirm.
If that makes me a left wing militant unsocialist self pitying thatcherite'' fair enough

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Can't find your original rant but I'll answer

Is this the caring face of the political left?

Castigating his ability to work, because he can't, through serious ill health?

Whilst 'you' have to work until sixty eight.

Unless you have a crystal ball, count your blessings if you're still here at sixty eight, and able to work. No one knows what's around the corner in this life.

A true socialist, of which you're not one, would happily work, if they were fit and able, in order to provide for those in genuine need, who could no longer earn a living because of illness.

Like I said, your measly, whingingly selfish attitude has more in common with Thatcherism, than it has to the ideals of true socialism.

Self-pitying, as well as boring in the extreme.

Well done.

Every man or women in this country should have proper care when needed and I'd say people in that position should be given more help both financial and medical .. .if that means higher taxes or if the country needs to borrow to help our own when they need it so be it I have no problem.

I do have a problem when people who took full advantage of the benifits that were in real terms increased after 1997 are now keen on the idea that this government should cut the income of the less well off (wether it be the low paid, those on benifits or tax credits) ..of a sudden it seems we have been spending to much on are ill people and the old or infirm.
If that makes me a left wing militant unsocialist self pitying thatcherite'' fair enough

Are you two an official couple now?

A sort of marriage between Wee Jimmy Krankie, and the dopiest one out of Chas 'n' Dave?

I asked cmonEileen who he was referring to, when he spewed out this charming rant, directly after a post made by Jaysay. (#232)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

you wouldnt be so cocky if you had to work till your 68 like the rest of us .yes make the working class work till they drop .our friends the banks and our mates making millions were alright jack make the peasants work till they drop dead so we dont need to pay any pensions tory scum

Sadly there's still been no confirmation from him, but thanks for your unasked for, and bewildering input, on behalf of your better half.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

Are you two an official couple now?

A sort of marriage between Wee Jimmy Krankie, and the dopiest one out of Chas 'n' Dave?

I asked cmonEileen who he was referring to, when he spewed out this charming rant, directly after a post made by Jaysay. (#232)



Sadly there's still been no confirmation from him, but thanks for your unasked for, and bewildering input, on behalf of your better half.

Ok you've lost me now..who are you on about?.. him her.. what is this some sort of Mrs & Mrs question?.. I've replied to your rant so for gods sake talk normal or go back to bed you nutjob