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[cmonstanley]

firing on all cylinders tonight jaysay

[Lucysgirl]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

Here is How the UK Govt Hid 1 million Jobless From Official Unemployment Figures | Scriptonite Daily the real unemployment figures

Absolute utter tosh - the article is obviously aimed at the young and gullible.
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Those of us who are old enough to know the original meaning of the word 'gay' will know that phrases and words do not now reflect their original terminology.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Lucysgirl

Absolute utter tosh - the article is obviously aimed at the young and gullible.
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Those of us who are old enough to know the original meaning of the word 'gay' will know that phrases and words do not now reflect their original terminology.

I wasn't going to read the link, but after your comment I did.
I could find no reference to 'gay' or homosexual, so why do you mention it?
In fact, in my experience of 35 years in the civil service social security dept (includes Thatcher era), I know most of what was said to be true.

[Lucysgirl]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I wasn't going to read the link, but after your comment I did.
I could find no reference to 'gay' or homosexual, so why do you mention it?
In fact, in my experience of 35 years in the civil service social security dept (includes Thatcher era), I know most of what was said to be true.

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(1) The blog intimates that today's terminology is the same as that of bygone decades - this is not always the case. I mentioned the word gay because it was common when and where I grew up to have a gay time - they gaily played, etc., etc., etc. To the average person in the street it now has other common usage. There wasn't much point in my using a word which isn't in current use and/or the meaning hasn't changed.
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(2) I didn't have any thoughts about social security/benefits when I read the link. My sole thought was that times change. For instance it was once the norm for couples to marry and the wife to stay at home - there were no labour saving gadgets such as automatic washing machines, they used the dolly tub and posser, the carpet beater, etc., etc. Before anyone protests I would point out that even in the 1970s some houses had internal gas lamps and outdoor dry soil lavatories which were emptied daily. Governments of the day wouldn't pidgeon hole those women into "unemployed". This is one reason why I thought the blog was tosh.

(3) In my 50 years of work in the engineering industry I can recognise the difference between what is termed as an "apprenticeship" in this current clime and what was once a STANDARD 5 to 7 year trade apprenticeship accompanied by college day release.

(4) As for the selling off of council houses - hands on heart how many councils fully maintained their housing stock? In fact, after I'd seen a TV programme this week I think some councils should hang their heads in shame at the standards of the dwellings under their ultimate control. Back in the 1980s I knew of 3-bedroomed council house estates which only had ONE single wall socket in the house (which was situated in the living room -darned dangerous) and if the council couldn't do a job properly, then it was proper to sell the houses privately to people who were willing to maintain them.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Lucysgirl

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(1) The blog intimates that today's terminology is the same as that of bygone decades - this is not always the case. I mentioned the word gay because it was common when and where I grew up to have a gay time - they gaily played, etc., etc., etc. To the average person in the street it now has other common usage. There wasn't much point in my using a word which isn't in current use and/or the meaning hasn't changed.
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(2) I didn't have any thoughts about social security/benefits when I read the link. My sole thought was that times change. For instance it was once the norm for couples to marry and the wife to stay at home - there were no labour saving gadgets such as automatic washing machines, they used the dolly tub and posser, the carpet beater, etc., etc. Before anyone protests I would point out that even in the 1970s some houses had internal gas lamps and outdoor dry soil lavatories which were emptied daily. Governments of the day wouldn't pidgeon hole those women into "unemployed". This is one reason why I thought the blog was tosh.

(3) In my 50 years of work in the engineering industry I can recognise the difference between what is termed as an "apprenticeship" in this current clime and what was once a STANDARD 5 to 7 year trade apprenticeship accompanied by college day release.

(4) As for the selling off of council houses - hands on heart how many councils fully maintained their housing stock? In fact, after I'd seen a TV programme this week I think some councils should hang their heads in shame at the standards of the dwellings under their ultimate control. Back in the 1980s I knew of 3-bedroomed council house estates which only had ONE single wall socket in the house (which was situated in the living room -darned dangerous) and if the council couldn't do a job properly, then it was proper to sell the houses privately to people who were willing to maintain them.

Absolutely spot on couldn't agree more

[cmonstanley]

I must be a secret tory I believe we should create the climate for people to buy their house ,to take pride in their country not be run down by a bunch of spivs. we need social cohesion so the masses can work and be proud. something to get up to think the government has done its best for the population and not just the chosen few so the workforce will be innovative. build up the towns to proud of have work in the shires . anyway same old tories eroding the standard of living for the masses BBC News - UK wages decline among worst in Europe

[Margaret Pilkington]

well, we all know where the allegiance of the BBC lies don't we???

[Margaret Pilkington]

Maybe I should just have put 'the BBC lies'!

[accyman]

gay dont really mean happy these days and hasnt for a while unless of course that man wentto prison for claiming a police horse was happy when he was sent to prison for calling a police horse gay

that judge by the way should have been dragged into the street and shot on the grounds of improving the legal system and to set an example to other moronic judges

[accyman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

well, we all know where the allegiance of the BBC lies don't we???

with pedophiles and polititions of which polititions only come off slightly better but only by a whisper

[cashman]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

I must be a secret tory

Oh i wouldn't say that, But yeh sure do em more good than thatcher ever did. n yer too dense to see it.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Lucysgirl

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(1) The blog intimates that today's terminology is the same as that of bygone decades - this is not always the case. I mentioned the word gay because it was common when and where I grew up to have a gay time - they gaily played, etc., etc., etc. To the average person in the street it now has other common usage. There wasn't much point in my using a word which isn't in current use and/or the meaning hasn't changed.
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Maybe you could have mentioned "the Sunday joint" instead ... altho' I tend to indulge on a daily basis '... It's safer than mentioning "gay", or, come to think of it, the name of Guy Gibson's dog.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Eric

or, come to think of it, the name of Guy Gibson's dog.

His name was Ni', I'll try again, his name was Ni', nope my PC keyboard won't let me spell the Ni' word, strange I always though PC meant personal computer, not politically correct!

How come a group of black men can use the Ni' (PC again), word but it's offensive if a white man uses it? Perhaps some fellow honky can tell me.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Less

His name was Ni', I'll try again, his name was Ni', nope my PC keyboard won't let me spell the Ni' word, strange I always though PC meant personal computer, not politically correct!

How come a group of black men can use the Ni' (PC again), word but it's offensive if a white man uses it? Perhaps some fellow honky can tell me.

Maybe a group of black men know there place

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Less

Perhaps some fellow honky can tell me.

Careful who you're calling "Honky" White trash!