The Tories

[cmonstanley]

BritISH kids need career advice at 10 says a TORY MP. They can choose early if they want to be an unemployed librarian or and unemployed nurse

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by andrewb

Such a silly statement. Growth has slowed, yes, that isn't to say that it wouldn't have slowed or even declined if we hadn't reduced the deficit. You are suggesting an alternative (although with no detail) and just assuming it will provide all solutions. What a gamble for the sake of bashing the Tories.

Greece, Portugal, Spain.. you want us to be like them? You can't go on borrowing. People will stop lending you money, at which point you're screwed.

Well that's all very nice and lovely I'm sure.. whatever the Sun said we have never been in the same situation as Portugal or Greece.. the real facts are that this country was coming out of a world wide slump when the condems took power.
To think the IMF outlook was positive is a joke.. the IMF only made it clear that this governments economic policey would lead to slow or even negative growth.. and for Andrew to say that 0.2 growth is some sort of positive is typical party propaganda... the fact is we are closing down small business by making more people unemployed who would have used those businesses.. transfering invalids and the sick onto the JSA and at the same time cutting the staff at Job Centres.. cutting nurses by up to 30,000 in the next 5 years .. cutting the police by 17,000 and it goes on.
This government can, with some honesty say they were left with a bad economy.. but the way they go about things are just basic tory policies from long back.. cut jobs, benifits, living standards and hope it turns out in the end!

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Well that's all very nice and lovely I'm sure.. whatever the Sun said we have never been in the same situation as Portugal or Greece.. the real facts are that this country was coming out of a world wide slump when the condems took power.
To think the IMF outlook was positive is a joke.. the IMF only made it clear that this governments economic policey would lead to slow or even negative growth.. and for Andrew to say that 0.2 growth is some sort of positive is typical party propaganda... the fact is we are closing down small business by making more people unemployed who would have used those businesses.. transfering invalids and the sick onto the JSA and at the same time cutting the staff at Job Centres.. cutting nurses by up to 30,000 in the next 5 years .. cutting the police by 17,000 and it goes on.
This government can, with some honesty say they were left with a bad economy.. but the way they go about things are just basic tory policies from long back.. cut jobs, benifits, living standards and hope it turns out in the end!

Originally Posted by Financial Times

In an unusually positive annual health check on the economy, the IMF lauded the government’s bold £128bn strategy to eliminate the deficit within five years, saying it ”greatly reduces the risk of a costly loss of confidence in fiscal sustainability and will help rebalance the economy”.

That was shortly after the Government announced its deficit reduction plans. The stance hasn't changed since.

Without the a proper plan to reduce the deficit we would follow Greece. Interest rates would be higher and as a result growth would be less; more businesses would go under finding borrowing costs too high; people would struggle to pay mortgages; the Government would pay even more money to bankers in interest payments instead of spending on health and schools.

You say the Government are cutting nurses in the NHS by up to 30,000. Yet you'd rather support the previous government who did not ring fence NHS spending at all - they would have slashed it. The fact is that, despite inheriting an economy in dire states, the coalition have delivered 2,500 more doctors in the NHS, 200 more nurses and 3,500 fewer managers.

The Government might well be reducing jobs in the public sector. Over the last year 143,000 public sector jobs went. 520,000 private sector ones were created in their place.

I disagree with the Coalition on many things but they are right to reduce state spending. Government cannot go on spending more hard earned taxpayers money than it gets in. It's not sustainable and it just leaves future generations less policy making choice and makes them pay it all back on our behalf.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by andrewb

I disagree with the Coalition on many things but they are right to reduce state spending. Government cannot go on spending more hard earned taxpayers money than it gets in. It's not sustainable and it just leaves future generations less policy making choice and makes them pay it all back on our behalf.

yep reduction in state spending had to happen, doubt very much if this is the way to do it, but only time will tell. pity foreign aid wasn't reduced as part of the austerity package.

[cashman]

everyone disagrees wi their own party on certain things andrew, but to say you disagree on "Many" things wi the coalition,is to my mind a perfect example of the owd saying- "Put a Pig in a Blue Rosette n yeh will still support it"

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

everyone disagrees wi their own party on certain things andrew, but to say you disagree on "Many" things wi the coalition,is to my mind a perfect example of the owd saying- "Put a Pig in a Blue Rosette n yeh will still support it"

Ya but it will be a better class of pig cashy

[cashman]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya but it will be a better class of pig cashy

oh i'm well aware of that fact, the tories always think there superior.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

oh i'm well aware of that fact, the tories always think there superior.

When it comes to Cameron and Mr Ed your certainly right

[cmonstanley]

what a load of rubbish our debts havent come down but have gone up under the tories,its all ideology we still find money to lend to ireland and then reduce their interest rate we still use our bombers in libya see if you look carefully how come the tories are spending more now than labour ever did in a year Public Spending Chart for United Kingdom 1900-2011 - Central Government Local Authorities wheres all the money going

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

what a load of rubbish our debts haven't come down but have gone up under the tories,its all ideology we still find money to lend to ireland and then reduce their interest rate we still use our bombers in libya see if you look carefully how come the tories are spending more now than labour ever did in a year Public Spending Chart for United Kingdom 1900-2011 - Central Government Local Authorities wheres all the money going

Probable most of it is going on servicing the debt left by Brown and Company the interest on that debt alone is £43 billion a year before we start to tackle the actual debt, maybe if over previous 13 years Brown first as chancellor the in cahoots with his little Darling had not borrowed money like there was no tomorrow to carry on their reckless spending we wouldn't be in the hole we're in now

[cmonstanley]

nope paying private companies thinking it wont go through public spending figure which is a waste of money because they get less service by paying more because its for the shareholder profit.thats what you call wasting money..and andrew b it takes 520,000 people to do what the public sector done lol there is an average of 400,000 jobs on jobcentre plus which these figures are from .about 200,000 are part time at least 150,000 temporary through agencies which leaves 50,000 full time for a population of millions your having a laugh. why is there more people now claiming jobseekers now than there was when labour left office

[Margaret Pilkington]

Please, please, learn some basic punctuation.
A capital letter at the start of a sentence....a full stop at the end. A comma when you would pause for breath.
Your posts are a nightmare to make sense of.

I have to admit I have given up on your last one.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Please, please, learn some basic punctuation.
A capital letter at the start of a sentence....a full stop at the end. A comma when you would pause for breath.
Your posts are a nightmare to make sense of.

I have to admit I have given up on your last one.

It might be an idea if he knew just a bit of something he talks about, at least its readable when he links the Guardian, or in other words readable rubbish

[cmonstanley]

its funny when people bring in punctuation into it when somebodies been caught out towing the party line when its debatable if its true. so all through the years there has been no private sector jobs, now the tories come in they are taking the credit for creating private jobs when all along these jobs have been in existance all along.when ive been looking through the internet it has come to mind there is less than usual and the dole queue is growing.i would like statisics saying how many people are working less than 25 hours a week or are in temporary work without a contract it would be interesting

[cashman]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

its funny when people bring in punctuation into it

Its called giving em the bullets, but yer too numb to realize.