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DaveinGermany · 04-04-2015, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

But do you think he would begrudge her receiving medical treatment in this country? He was the one who threw HIV sufferers into the mix.

Mike there's no comparison here, Malala came to UK because we had the expertise (British Military trauma treatment teams) to treat her & the costs were carried by Pakistan. The point Nigel Farage was making was that it is irreconcilable that the UK pay for treatment of people who have no connection & have made to contribution to the upkeep & costs of a UK based & funded service.

It's on a par with someone coming to you & saying that from this point on, you must open your home up to some complete stranger who doesn't speak your language, understand, accept or even respects your sense of propriety & to top it all off, you'll be paying for the lot out of your own pocket with no recompense from anywhere or anyone, but if your lucky they may just say thank you & this for an indeterminate time with no regard to cost, be that monetary or personal.

Not so appealing when it's so seen eh?

http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/mal...-nhs-treatment

Gordon Booth · 04-04-2015, 11:18

An independent report a couple of years ago claimed foreign visitors, EU residents, migrants etc cost the NHS up to £2 billion a year in free treatment. Even British expats coming home for free treatment should have to pay and don't! Didn't realise that.
Health tourists, those who just come for free treatment then go home -up to £300,000.

I'll bet no other EU country( come to that any other country) allows that.

NHS 'Free at the point of delivery' healthcare is supposed to apply to UK citizens, not the rest of the world!

£2 billion would pay for quite a few doctors and nurses.

Rowlf · 04-04-2015, 17:33

I agree Gordon. Anyone coming here on holiday or on a works permit should have to prove they have health insurance to cover any costs for any treatment they might need. After all we have had to pay towards it all our working lives.It is time which ever party is in power had the nerve to make sure everyone other than our own tax and National Insurance payers pay for treatment. Our citizens do not get away with free treatment any where abroad.

accyman · 04-04-2015, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Rowlf

I agree Gordon. Anyone coming here on holiday or on a works permit should have to prove they have health insurance to cover any costs for any treatment they might need. After all we have had to pay towards it all our working lives.It is time which ever party is in power had the nerve to make sure everyone other than our own tax and National Insurance payers pay for treatment. Our citizens do not get away with free treatment any where abroad.

you are aware that in most wet arse liberal eyes you have just posted a vile racist rant ..

normal folk call it common sense which is sadly lacking from the people who run the country

Neil · 06-04-2015, 09:59

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Mike there's no comparison here, Malala came to UK because we had the expertise (British Military trauma treatment teams) to treat her & the costs were carried by Pakistan.

I'm sure they can afford it, we give them £405 million a year in aid so they can just give us a little bit back

Neil · 06-04-2015, 10:22

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Originally Posted by accyman

you are aware that in most wet arse liberal eyes you have just posted a vile racist rant ..

normal folk call it common sense which is sadly lacking from the people who run the country

Best thing is just ignore anyone who thinks his comments are racist, they are just idiots

accyman · 06-04-2015, 13:32

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Originally Posted by Neil

Best thing is just ignore anyone who thinks his comments are racist, they are just idiots

you used to have to be apretty vile person to be a racist

now anyone can be one without any effort at all for the most trivial reason

today you can be classed just as vile as the KKK who actually burned black people alive on crosses for merely suggesting that perhaps we are touch to generous to people looking for handouts

Michael1954 · 06-04-2015, 13:47

Just to be clear: despite my observations above, I'm not calling anyone a racist, just making an observation about Ukip's seemingly limited policies. I also object to Health tourists etc., but I would only vote for a Party whose policies went beyond foreigners, immigration and the EU.

Barrie Yates · 06-04-2015, 15:18

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

Just to be clear: despite my observations above, I'm not calling anyone a racist, just making an observation about Ukip's seemingly limited policies. I also object to Health tourists etc., but I would only vote for a Party whose policies went beyond foreigners, immigration and the EU.

Are you suggesting that you would only vote for a party that didn't have a policy, or perhaps even a failed policy, on "foreigners", immigration and the EU?

Gordon Booth · 06-04-2015, 15:27

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

but I would only vote for a Party whose policies went beyond foreigners, immigration and the EU.

Now you're not being fair!

He wants to blow up wind farms, legalize handguns, make friends with Putin, ban immigrants with HIV or TB, insist on people speaking English on trains, I could go on.
Oh, and allow smoking in 'smoking rooms' in pubs!
There, now you can vote for him! Sounds your sort of guy!

accyman · 06-04-2015, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Now you're not being fair!

He wants to blow up wind farms, legalize handguns, make friends with Putin, ban immigrants with HIV or TB, insist on people speaking English on trains, I could go on.
Oh, and allow smoking in 'smoking rooms' in pubs!
There, now you can vote for him! Sounds your sort of guy!

i was sold at blowing up windfarms

what a crock of useless crap they are teh only thing they have proven to be good for is blocking tv signals

where do i apply to blow them up if hes elected :-)

Michael1954 · 06-04-2015, 17:18

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Are you suggesting that you would only vote for a party that didn't have a policy, or perhaps even a failed policy, on "foreigners", immigration and the EU?

Er, no I am not suggesting that. Sorry if I gave that impression.

DaveinGermany · 15-04-2015, 13:45

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

I suspect his only policy is to blame foreigners for everything.

Here you go young Michael, the U kippers festo for your perusal should you choose to have a peek, see, he's branching out, old people, schools, sticking it to the Jockeens & so on.

UKIP Manifesto Summary - UKIP

DaveinGermany · 15-04-2015, 13:59

And if your dead set against the Nige, here's an overview of what the Bolixticians from across the spectrum are saying. There's definitely some scary suggestions in amongst all the blather!

Manifesto watch: Where parties stand on key issues - BBC News

Morecambe Ex Pat · 15-04-2015, 15:00

I found myself looking through that list and came to the conclusion that many of the things being proposed, used to be in place before successive governments started cutting this, that and the other.