The Tories

[DaveinGermany]

Well, it appears they'll be taking the country "forward" for the foreseeable future ....... joy of joys!

Think I'll be staying in Krautyland a while longer.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I think that the prospect of Nicola Sturgeon pulling Ed's strings was a major turn off.
It certainly put the heebie jeebies up me.
I went and voted but not with the aim of putting in power someone I could identify with, but more to put a block on the party i didn't want to see in power.

It doesn't really matter who is in power, none of them are interested in the likes of you and me.
They will do what is best for themselves.

[cashman]

I think the ordinary working people,that voted Tory will get exactly what they deserved in this next term.

[Less]

Originally Posted by cashman

I think the ordinary working people,that voted Tory will get exactly what they deserved in this next term.

Why would anyone pick on such a small minority as workers?

[Rowlf]

I think the Labour Party need to return to it's roots and speak up far more for the working folk. Over recent years there has not much difference between them and the Tories. Alex Salmon whipping the Scottish people up did no favours for Labour either. If there had not been a referendum things might have been different. The Labour Party now need a new leader, someone who has a strong character who can rally the troops ready for a good fight in 5 years time.Ah well I can live in hope even if I die in despair.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I think that the prospect of Nicola Sturgeon pulling Ed's strings was a major turn off..

Whilst that is certainly so Margaret, The fact remains that if the SNP were non-existent, Labour would still be well behind the Torys, and they would still have won!! To me the biggest factor is the damage Labour have done to ordinary people, by a refusal to listen. Which they have done for too long now, n an elephant never forgets.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Yes Cashy, I think you are right.
But in actual fact no party has listened to the concerns of the electorate.
The politicians all think they know what is best for us.......and voting makes no difference to what will happen.
The 'New' Labour party was just the Tory party in sheep's clothing, but those who follow the party slavishly cannot (or perhaps will not) see this.
There is no true socialism any more (certainly not as we knew it anyway, maybe this is because now all the politicians have never done a real job of work.......but some(I did say some) supporters of the Labour party would vote for a donkey as long as it was wearing a Labour rosette.

[Rowlf]

Perhaps if the Labour Party could take the massive step to be more socialist and it were possible to take privatised industries back in to public ownership so that they were run for the good and benefit of us all instead of the wealthy shareholders they would appeal to more folk.Margaret is right they have been the Tories in sheep's clothing in recent years.It is certainly time for them to make radical changes and put far more distance between themselves and the Tories before the next General Election.

[cashman]

The reason being as i have said on numerous occasions, is the I'm all right jack society, that Thatcher created, and sadly it will never likely be reversed. Thats why Labour became what they are today, they sadly had little choice.

[Less]

Originally Posted by cashman

The reason being as i have said on numerous occasions, is the I'm all right jack society, that Thatcher created, and sadly it will never likely be reversed. Thats why Labour became what they are today, they sadly had little choice.

Little choice or not enough backbone?

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

Perhaps if the Labour Party could take the massive step to be more socialist and it were possible to take privatised industries back in to public ownership so that they were run for the good and benefit of us all instead of the wealthy shareholders they would appeal to more folk.Margaret is right they have been the Tories in sheep's clothing in recent years.It is certainly time for them to make radical changes and put far more distance between themselves and the Tories before the next General Election.

I think it is unlikely that they will be able to revert to what was a socialist party....and I can't see how they can take privatised industries back into public ownership and make them profitable.

They (and to be fair, other parties too) have lost a massive amount of trust.

They are where they are by their own hand...by not taking seriously the problems of immigration(this was social engineering at its worst because the impact had not been thought through), worries about jobs, the welfare state, the NHS (many hospitals are in dire financial difficulty not just through ineffective management, but because of the PFI that was instituted by Labour) the creeping control that the EU is seeming to have on all aspects of our daily life.
None of these issues has been taken seriously by any party.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Less

Little choice or not enough backbone?

Little choice its that simple, they could never have won n election otherwise.

[Rowlf]

Well I for one hope the Labour Party does now elect a strong leader now Miliband has resigned and that they change enough to get enough seats in 5 yrs time to form a government and they keep the Red Flag flying.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

Well I for one hope the Labour Party does now elect a strong leader now Miliband has resigned and that they change enough to get enough seats in 5 yrs time to form a government and they keep the Red Flag flying.

I agree100% wi that view, sadly i doubt if it will ever be able to happen.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

Well I for one hope the Labour Party does now elect a strong leader now Miliband has resigned and that they change enough to get enough seats in 5 yrs time to form a government and they keep the Red Flag flying.

don't be holding your breath on that one!