The Tories

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

nearly forgot to mention unemployment at its highest since 1988 this sounds familiarthatchers britain tories britain we could be heading to find out how good it was under labour

Isn't it funny that for years after Labour leave office there's always huge financial problems to sort out, 1970, 1979, 2010, the only problem is the longer Labour are in power the bigger the financial mess there is to clean up

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Neil

How much has this to do with the massive amount of foreign workers that have moved here since we became more Europey?

Ya Neil 9 out of every 10 jobs created by Labour went to people from other countries

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya Neil 9 out of every 10 jobs created by Labour went to people from other countries

Is that just your impression, or do you have links to statistics that show that?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Is that just your impression, or do you have links to statistics that show that?

I thought you would be the last person interested in facts

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Neil

I thought you would be the last person interested in facts

Often so called 'facts' are proved to be fiction - it is sad that some people accept 'facts' without question.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Is that just your impression, or do you have links to statistics that show that?

No it was in an article in the Guardian a few weeks ago
If your interested I'm sure you have the time to google it

[garinda]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Often so called 'facts' are proved to be fiction - it is sad that some people accept 'facts' without question.

An example of which...

Originally Posted by MargaretR

After websearching for possible causes of this toxic fumes incident, I suspect that it a lethal combination of bleach and urine.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...als-59226.html



Leaked carbon dioxide piped through to a drinks fountain was behind the fumes breathed in by a woman in McDonald's who later died, police said.

Read more: Leaked gas from drinks fountain pipe caused McDonald's toxic fumes horror that killed Anne Felton | Mail Online

[Less]

Originally Posted by garinda

An example of which...

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...als-59226.html



Leaked carbon dioxide piped through to a drinks fountain was behind the fumes breathed in by a woman in McDonald's who later died, police said.

Read more: Leaked gas from drinks fountain pipe caused McDonald's toxic fumes horror that killed Anne Felton | Mail Online

Well, those qualifications in chemistry have stood you in good sted, you must have spent hours over a test tube searching for those results, (I hope she appreciates it).

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Less

Well, those qualifications in chemistry have stood you in good sted, you must have spent hours over a test tube searching for those results, (I hope she appreciates it).

I'd like to give thanks to my old chemistry master Mr. Ingham.

For furnishing me with the technical know how to uncover the facts of this sad case, and for teaching me that wild speculation is more than often useless.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya Neil 9 out of every 10 jobs created by Labour went to people from other countries

Immigration went up by 20% this year.. in the same peroid jobs available went down by 18%.. public sector jobs went down by 110,000...the higest unemployment since the late 80's..you and plenty of others here seem to have the attitude that it's a simplle matter of cutting costs and it will all turn out well in the end.. wake up.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Isn't it funny that for years after Labour leave office there's always huge financial problems to sort out, 1970, 1979, 2010, the only problem is the longer Labour are in power the bigger the financial mess there is to clean up

And it's funny that with every Tory government we have riots, strikes, high unemployment, high inflation, the NHS left in tatters, cuts in defence and police.. cuts in anything that dares to be called "public".. I know what I'd rather have and so did the majority that voted against the Tories 18 months ago... you lot can live in your made up world were this lot can't do a thing wrong.. carry on .

[gynn]

Originally Posted by Mancie

And it's funny that with every Tory government we have riots, strikes, high unemployment, high inflation, the NHS left in tatters, cuts in defence and police.. cuts in anything that dares to be called "public".. I know what I'd rather have and so did the majority that voted against the Tories 18 months ago... you lot can live in your made up world were this lot can't do a thing wrong.. carry on .

I suspect the truth lies somewhere between the worlds of mancie and jaysay.......

[Margaret Pilkington]

Which government was it that actively encouraged immigration...regardless of the concerns of the electorate?
Which government lost countless asylum seekers by failing to track where they were?
Which government thought that marriage was outmoded?
The riots you talk of, were a symptom of the general moral decline, encouraged by Tony Blair and his cohorts.
Work ethics were not encouraged, but reliance on benefits was........ The thought was that if you make people reliant on you for hand outs they will vote for you. Wasn't that a bit sly....almost paying for votes.

The last government were a shambles and left the country in dire straits because of their failure to listen to the electorate.


This does not mean that I feel in agreement with everything the coalition government is doing.

I really don't care about what persuasion the governemnt is as long as they can sort out the mess left by the last incumbents.

New Labour are not socialist as the original Labour party were....they were as close to being tory as it is possible to be, without actually calling themselves tory....but because they kept Labour in the name they retained Old Labour voters....again another sly Tony Blair trick.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by gynn

I suspect the truth lies somewhere between the worlds of mancie and jaysay.......

Quite right, I can never understand why committed Tories or Labourites think it's such a good thing that their party should be permanently in power. If the Tories had been in the driving seat for the last hundred years, there'd be no welfare state, no NHS and the majority of the population would be working in terrible conditions and living in poverty. If Labour had been there for a similar length of time, we'd be living in some sort of drab, Soviet-style socialist police state. There may not be a lot of difference between the parties these days, but I'd prefer to keep the pendulum of government swinging!

[Less]

Originally Posted by Mancie

And it's funny that with every Tory government we have riots, strikes, high unemployment, high inflation, the NHS left in tatters, cuts in defence and police.. cuts in anything that dares to be called "public".. I know what I'd rather have and so did the majority that voted against the Tories 18 months ago... you lot can live in your made up world were this lot can't do a thing wrong.. carry on .

So James Callaghan was a Tory was he?

I always thought he was old labour myself.

Winter of Discontent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A selective memory is a wonderful thing.

(Jaysay for the first time in 13 years, don't comment, let the facts speak for themselves!).