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Stumped · 16-05-2011, 17:55

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

double dip here we come

France and Germany must be laughing their socks off! In the prophetic words of John Mesurier (Dad's Army): "We're all doomed!"

jaysay · 16-05-2011, 18:09

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Originally Posted by Stumped

France and Germany must be laughing their socks off! In the prophetic words of John Mesurier (Dad's Army): "We're all doomed!"

Shushhhhhhhhhhh Stumped the chaps from Scotland you have to make allowances for him

Stumped · 16-05-2011, 18:11

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Shushhhhhhhhhhh Stumped the chaps from Scotland you have to make allowances for him

Aye, Laddie. That's why Captain Mainwaring held him in such contempt!

jaysay · 16-05-2011, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Stumped

Aye, Laddie. That's why Captain Mainwaring held him in such contempt!

Exactly

cmonstanley · 17-05-2011, 22:12

looks like the truth is coming out, it really is ideology BBC News - Police service 'hated' by government, officers told

Mancie · 17-05-2011, 22:53

The truth is that the postion as Home Secretary has become a joke..I mean come on Theresa May?.. the last labour goverment put a blind man with half a brain in charge.. this lot have put a pair of shoes with no brains in charge

accyman · 18-05-2011, 01:24

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

double dip here we come

as long as Cameron and Clegg are only double dipping

i fear they may do a re-enactment of 2 girls 1 cup then we will know were truely in the poop

MargaretR · 18-05-2011, 10:41

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

looks like the truth is coming out, it really is ideology BBC News - Police service 'hated' by government, officers told

It looks as though the feeling is mutual.
When any government loses the support of the police it is the start of a dangerous path to government downfall.

When there are stirrings of revolution the government needs the support of the police to control the masses.

cmonstanley · 18-05-2011, 19:12

what a idiot it goes on what happened to the so called party of law and order BBC News - Ken Clarke clarifies 'serious rape' remarks

jaysay · 19-05-2011, 09:16

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

what a idiot it goes on what happened to the so called party of law and order BBC News - Ken Clarke clarifies 'serious rape' remarks

If you care to look beyond the headlines, clear the cotton wool out of your brain (I know its hard but try) what Clarke was actually saying is that 6% prosecution rates (the second worse in Europe) is not acceptable and major steps must be taken to significantly increase this rate as a matter of urgency

cashman · 19-05-2011, 10:50

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Originally Posted by jaysay

If you care to look beyond the headlines, clear the cotton wool out of your brain (I know its hard but try) what Clarke was actually saying is that 6% prosecution rates (the second worse in Europe) is not acceptable and major steps must be taken to significantly increase this rate as a matter of urgency

and also decrease the sentence by half if they admit offence early enough, which is ruddy ludicrous as NOW the minimum sentence is only 5 yrs, which will make it only Two n Half years, which would then possibly be further reduced to half of that fer good behaviour, but carry on defending these *******.

Wynonie Harris · 19-05-2011, 11:15

Jay, if a Labour Justice Secretary had come out with exactly the same proposals, you'd be calling him left, right and centre on here. Clarke is an absolute disaster, a pompous, blustering windbag who doesn't even know the law (an 18-year-old having sex with a 15-year-old is not "rape" as he stated, but unlawful sex).

I would say take your blue-tinted specs off, but I guess it's far too late for that now!

gynn · 19-05-2011, 11:49

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Originally Posted by jaysay

If you care to look beyond the headlines, clear the cotton wool out of your brain (I know its hard but try) what Clarke was actually saying is that 6% prosecution rates (the second worse in Europe) is not acceptable and major steps must be taken to significantly increase this rate as a matter of urgency

What Clarke ACTUALLY said, in response to a comment that "Rape is Rape", was "No, it's not".

He made the classic Old Tory mistake of forgetting he wasn't speaking over coffee and brandy at some fossilised Piccadilly "gentleman's" club, and was actually talking to "ordinary people" on a radio phone in.

For that reason, he has to go.

Margaret Pilkington · 19-05-2011, 12:27

This man has a background in Law, so you would think he would have given a little more thought to the impact of his words.

He might have been trying to make the point that only 6% of rapes end in a conviction, but that was not the message the came across.....and after someone had said 'Rape is rape' to which he replied 'No. it's not'....he was lost, because he had alienated at least 50% of the population.

He is a pompous, self important, windbag....who cannot apologise, and he should be relieved of his post.

cashman · 19-05-2011, 14:09

most ive spoke to today think the cretin should go, but jaysay will carry on regardless defending the indefensible.